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Old 07-25-2008
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Question If 9/11 Had Happened With a Democratic President In Office...

What do you think would have happened?

Would it have united the country, as short-lived as it was, the same way?

Would the Republicans publically blame the Democrats for being soft on Terror and Immigration and not being fit or able to defend Americans, America and/or its borders?

Would the country blamed the Dems for it?

Would that unlucky president be seen as a hero/patriot or a fumbling buffoon who's to be blamed for all the ill in the country?

What say you board?

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Re: If 9/11 Had Happened With a Democratic President In Office...

I don't think Democrat or Republican would necessarily mean as much as the personal convictions of said individual.
However, whoever it "could" have been - would have been blamed just the same...there is an endless supply of blame in politics, and a scarce supply of solutions.
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Re: If 9/11 Had Happened With a Democratic President In Office...

Personally, I think that it would have been a WORLD of a difference had a Dem been in office during 9/11.

The Repubs would have came out in rare form.

"Look what happens to our blessed country when you slip and let a Dem run the country."

I bet those spin-meisters would have spun it excellently too.

It would be another 50 years til a Dem could show their head in public had that been the case.
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Re: If 9/11 Had Happened With a Democratic President In Office...

There are often a lot of preconditions, which limit the influence of individuals. In some way, even the raison d' état is shaped by a historical experiences, morals, geography, etc.
Thus it isn`t surprising, that there weren`t much differences in the reactions betweens reps and dems short after 9-11.
And remember that G.W.Bush startet his first term with a more isolationistic foreign policy.
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Re: If 9/11 Had Happened With a Democratic President In Office...

Global Thermonuclear War... There was no Democratic, Republican, Conservative or Liberal response. The will of the people in the United States; someone was going to pay.
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Re: If 9/11 Had Happened With a Democratic President In Office...

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Personally, I think that it would have been a WORLD of a difference had a Dem been in office during 9/11.

The Repubs would have came out in rare form.

"Look what happens to our blessed country when you slip and let a Dem run the country."

I bet those spin-meisters would have spun it excellently too.

It would be another 50 years til a Dem could show their head in public had that been the case.
Obviously this isn't true since everyone knows that 9/11 was planned on the watch of a Democrat.
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Re: If 9/11 Had Happened With a Democratic President In Office...

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Global Thermonuclear War... There was no Democratic, Republican, Conservative or Liberal response. The will of the people in the United States; someone was going to pay.
Seems like the only people that are paying IS the American people. What has happened since 9/11? Only a loss of certain freedoms.

You know the old saying, any man that's willing to sacrifice freedom for security deserves neither. Something I wish the average Joe Schmoe would consider more often.

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Obviously this isn't true since everyone knows that 9/11 was planned on the watch of a Democrat.
I just LOVE your satire Mrs. M.


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Re: If 9/11 Had Happened With a Democratic President In Office...

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Personally, I think that it would have been a WORLD of a difference had a Dem been in office during 9/11.
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The Repubs would have came out in rare form.

"Look what happens to our blessed country when you slip and let a Dem run the country."

I bet those spin-meisters would have spun it excellently too.
I would have hoped they would. Clinton set it up and now Kerry will screw it up worse by surrendering to Islam and attacking Australia.


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It would be another 50 years til a Dem could show their head in public had that been the case.
How is it different from now ? They only come out now as they have no shame.
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Re: If 9/11 Had Happened With a Democratic President In Office...

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Seems like the only people that are paying IS the American people. What has happened since 9/11? Only a loss of certain freedoms.

You know the old saying, any man that's willing to sacrifice freedom for security deserves neither. Something I wish the average Joe Schmoe would consider more often.
What HAS happened sine 9/11? I don't think the initial reaction would have been any different. Americans united against what happened, not who was President. I don't believe the initial attack into Afghanistan would have been any different. Handling up until now is a different question, and with a Democrat as President we would not have gone into Iraq. As far as the blame and finger pointing, that happens anyway. Republicans think Democrats are soft and no one seems to understand why anyone can love a President they hate and vice-versa.
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Obviously this isn't true since everyone knows that 9/11 was planned on the watch of a Democrat.
whooops
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Remember, it was a Republican who ignored the warnings.
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Remember, it was a Republican who ignored the warnings.
uh yeah, keep telling yourself that....nighty night.
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uh yeah, keep telling yourself that....nighty night.
So much trolling.

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Re: If 9/11 Had Happened With a Democratic President In Office...

hey if you want to pick gnats to of flyshit be my guest, we have been through the briefing, what could have been done what was done and what was not. If this is presumptive evidence that bush is responsible for 911, well at the very least I beg to differ and that mischaracterization is the usual stock in trade for those who want to expunge history post jan. 2001.

as far as trolling is concerned- I’ll take my derision as compared to your statement making facts of a huge and disparate number for simple self aggrandizement ala making a point in one time and place to attempt to skew an argument. To wit; I am still waiting on the proof ala 20,000 American dead from Iraq.....
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Remember, it was a Republican who ignored the warnings.
what did clinton do for 8 years??????

you really need to read this book:

http://www.posner.com/why_america_slept.htm
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