Cool.

Of course, none of the conspiracies I speak of ARE MINE.

I didn't invent any of them.

I learned from these conspiracies from US Congressmen, historians, one rear admiral in the navy, the most decorated marine in the history of the Marines, as well the people involved in the conspiracies themselves, people like Zbiegniew Brzezinski and Richard Gardner. Other government officials and well respected people have also contributed to my knowledge. People like NTSB investigator Terry Stacey, people like General Ben Partin, as well as a host of other well respected people.

Did you know that way back in 1998 two FOX news reporters field a lawsuit against FOX news because they were fired for refusing to bow the the demands of Monsanto on a story they were doing about rBGH?

Do you know that these two reporters won the lawsuit, before they eventually lost on appeal?

Do you know how many US mass media outlets covered that story?

Go ahead and guess.

If you guessed none, then you are correct. Not a single mass media outlet in the US covered the story of two reporters who were fired for refusing to bow to demands from Monsanto to change their story on an important story which effects the health of almost all Americans, especially children. Not one media outlet picked up their story of how they were fired, sued FOX news and won.

Sickening.

I know you said you will not respond to my posts anymore and that is cool, but anyone who has sifted through the news like I have already knows the media is controlled.

Back in the old days, when you could search through AP stories on Yahoo news, I came across numerous important stories reported by the AP, but totally ignored by the mass media.

One example was the tainted blood scandal in Canada. The AP did a story back around 2000 that was headlined....."FBI and RCMP to do Joint Investigation into Tainted Blood Scandal."

Not one single mass media outlet picked up that story. Not one.

Go ahead and ask 100 Americans about the tainted blood scandal. Guess what response you will get?

I could list other examples of important stories that have been ignored, or dismissed, like the Ron Brown whistle blowers and how they were punished, but if you really want to know how the media works, just look at what was done to Gary Webb.

Here was a good man, a Pulitzer prize winner, a man who tried to report what he believed to be the truth, only to be attacked without mercy by the controlled media, eventually leading to his death, which may, or may not have been suicide.

WHAT HAPPENED TO GARY WEBB PROVES HOW CONTROLLED THE US MASS MEDIA IS.

Narco News: The Life and Times of Gary Webb

This SINGLE STORY is all that is needed for any THINKING PERSON to realize we are being lied to on a daily basis.

It is shameful how the controlled the media drove a good, honest man to suicide, yet few Americans seem to care.

No, it is much easier to just dismiss what happened to Webb and move on to the next "hot topic" of the week.

Some people will never flipping get it.

When I was a kid I used to believe in the words I recited every day in school.

I used to believe in "liberty and justice for all."

Where is the justice for Gary Webb?

I don't know about that. It certainly seems that the man knew how to control people.

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Greetings and Felicitations,

I will give him that. However, I give the people who took over after him even more. It simply shows how some people are so desperate to believe in something that they will swallow anything.

Sincerely Yours.
C. David Neely

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You know, I am amazed at how so many people are closed minded.

L. Ron Hubbard was brilliant. A loon, maybe, but brilliant.

While I think Scientology is a joke, that doesn't mean that L. Ron Hubbard didn't tell the truth on occasion.

Even Hitler, Goering and Mussolini told the truth, when it suited them.

Should I dismiss everything these scumbags had to say?

Depends on what it is they said.

For example, Goering said to Gustave Gilbert while in jail at the Nuremberg trials.......

Goering: Why, of course, the people don't want war. Why would some
poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best that
he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece.

Naturally, the common people don't want war; neither in Russia, nor in
England, nor in America, nor for that matter in Germany. That is
understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who
determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the
people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or
a parliament, or a communist dictatorship.

Gilbert: There is one difference. In a democracy the people have some
say in the matter through their elected representatives, and in the
United States only Congress can declare wars.

Goering: Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the
bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them
they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of
patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in
any country."

So, is this the truth, or not?

Does it matter that the person who said it was a scumbag who helped murder millions of people?

It is either true, or it is partially true, or it is false.

Information should be able to stand on it's own, no matter who the author is.

Of course the only people who understand this are people who do not let the "establishment" tell them what to think.

Do you understand this?

The most important parts of what you're saying.

As long as we're kept dumb and divided we're nothing more than "sheeple" to be herded around by "leaders."

How long until we realize the part we're playing though ?

Decide to coalesce and work together against the corruption we have "leading" America into history as a once powerful ex - civilization.

Like ancient Rome.

A HELL of an entertaining writer.

Damn his books were funny. Especially this series:

The Invaders Plan - Google Book Search

I am not really interested in Hubbard. I did read Battlefield Earth and I was impressed with that book. It was very entertaining. I loved how Johnny Goodboy figured out how to destroy the Psychlos and how he got the villain to sign away all of his people's rights to the bankers before their demise. Good stuff.

The only reason I brought up Hubbard was because someone else attacked a video which showed how the media is dominated by the CFR and the first quote in that video was from Hubbard, so this person stopped watching the video and judged the entire video from the opening quote, or to be more accurate, judged the entire video just by the AUTHOR of the first quote.

Typical.

I see this a lot. People are so anxious to find any reason to dismiss any information which doesn't fit their current world view, they simply refuse to consider the information for what it is, information.

Forget who the author is, forget where the information comes from, just look at the information, logically, using reason and common sense and then see if the information can stand on it's own.

Sometimes more research is needed to verify if a quote, or to make sure the info is authentic, but any information can be placed into three categories.

1) TRUE

2) Partially true

3) False

It is very frustrating to me when people attack the location for information, or the author, or their agenda, or myself, but refuse to just look at the INFORMATION itself.

While I place great importance on sources for information, it is the ORIGINAL SOURCE that is important.

What website information is located at HAS NO BEARING WHATSOEVER ON INFORMATION.

NONE. ZERO. ZILCH. NADA.

Only the ORIGINAL SOURCE is what matters.

I only wish people could understand such simple concepts.

The entire Mission Earth series kept me laughing.

He's an excellent writer.

One must wonder, after reading his sci-fi work, if his whole "dyanetics/scientology" writings were simply written as a test to see how many people could be sold such foolishness. Sort of a joke on everyone. Hubbard definitely seems like just the kind of person to do that. But you'd really have had to spend time reading and paying close attention to his sci-fi writings to conclude that.

Yes, you DO see that a lot.

If you put a quote or an article from say Newsmax or Michael Savage's site you'll get called names and the entire quote or article will be dismissed just because it came from a source that doesn't fit their current world view.

They're only interested in information that fits their idealogy or views.

I suppose this is how simple minds save themselves from information overload

They don't WANT information.

They only want propoganda that fits in with their ideas of how reality should look. Information or ideas that don't fit that can, and are, outright rejected or ignored.

Don't let it frustrate you.

There will ALWAYS be people trying to escape from reality. Always.

Reality can (often is) be harsh. Of COURSE people try to escape it. This will never change.

Like I said, try not to let it bother you. People just want to ignore or escape reality. Many many different and creative ways to do that. This is just one of them :-)

Greetings and Felicitations,


Yes. Us people who want real information and don't want to wade through the meanderings of fanatics and conspiracy theorist are just victims of the mass media programming. I consider L. Ron Hubbard and Michael Savage to be fanatics. I don't have time to waste trying to find good, valuable information by sifting through 300 pages of crap to find it. Sorry about that. Applying critical thinking is so much easier if you start out with good sources. If I have to choose between a site like Science Daily or michaelsavage.wnd.com then guess which one I am going to choose. At least when I read Science Daily I don't have to wade through insults and diatribes about who is actually in control of the whole world. I listened to Michael Savage one time. If he said feminazi once he said it a hundred times. It's nothing but noise with some data encoded somewhere in it. I don't like filterning noise.

Of course, I should have known a thread with a title like The News Media is a Weapon of War on Your Mind would be a refuge for conspiracy theorist. Silly me.

However, since you both seem to be talking about me without actually using my name I thought I would put a little cloud in your Eternal Sunshine.

Sincerely Yours,
C. David Neely

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In spite of what you say, things at these sites you mention do not have "the meanderings of fanatics and conspiracy theorist".

You may consider L. Ron Hubbard and Michael Savage to be fanatics, that however, doesn't mean that they don't often offer good information that can't be found on the mainstream media.

Everything you write is a sad excuse for you to dismiss and ignore information that you don't want to see.

To say; I don't have time to waste trying to find good, valuable information by sifting through 300 pages of crap ..

Is ridiculous. There's no need to "sift through 300 pages of crap" to find information at these sites. That's simply an exaggeration to help you beleive your own rhetoric.

You're "clouding" no ones "sunshine" but your own, and I'll leave you to it.

Greetings and Felicitations,

Do I want to see that Autistic children are nothing more than children who haven't been punished enough. Nope, because its not true and nothing more than the bitter screaming of man who can't find anything constructive to do.

Do I want to see that Xenu is the real force of evil and we are all just banished souls from some galactic war? Nope, because its not true and its nuts.

You fail to answer the basic question. Why should I wade through a stream of vile (in the case of Michael Savage) and technobabble (in the case of L. Ron Hubbard) to glean some small piece of factual evidence when I can look other places and find that information?

For example, do I believe that media shapes the minds of the public? Yes, I do. I believe this because that is what the media does. It manipulates and promotes specific memes to influence. Do I think its run by some super-secret hidden society? No, because there is no evidence that such a group exist. All the evidence called into existence by those who believe these things are not verifiable. Do I think they are out to destroy the fabric of America? Nope, because I don't see diversity as an evil force but a force for good.

Sincerely Yours,
C. David Neely

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Very nice

Ignore as many facts and as much information as you want, based on your beleifs. You'll only have yourself to blame later

Greetings and Felicitations,

Let's start simple. Show me one fact from Michael Savage that had independent verification and I'll give you a point.

Sincerely Yours,
C. David Neely

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Why should I do that ?

There are MANY many facts on his site that you can verify on your OWN.

On his site.

In his books.

Why on Earth would you depend on some stranger on the internet to verify information for you that you're perfectly capable of verifying on your OWN ?

I care not if you give ME a point

I only find it odd that one would dismiss and/or ignore information for the reasons you've given. That's your choice though. It's your own choice to keep the blinders on.

Interesting...

I recall making a prediction some months ago, though I'm not sure I remember what it was. On another note, have you figured out who was responsible for 9/11 yet, or does that come, only later, after seeing how many PhD's of pottery and other notables think that there are just too many unanswered questions?

Curiouser and curiouser. This thing goes deeper than any of us could possibly imagine.

(By the way, L Ron Hubbard is an accomplished and celebrated pederast - his boat was the original "Neverland Ranch". I should think you'd want to dig him up so that someone could mutilate him, rather than admiring his work)

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