Almost five times as many people watched the last night of the RNC on FoxNews, and FoxNews even beat everyone in total viewers for the DNC.

The people have spoken, and finally the liberal news media is scrambling to make changes, admiting defeat. Nothing pisses people off more than being manipulated and IMO, this is a sign that the liberal media's bias toward Obama hurts him.

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Well to be fair Countdown is still the highest rated show in MSNBC's history. MSNBC did less well with the republican convention because republicans tend to watch Fox News and did better covering the democratic convention because democrats seem to be watching it. I think another thing that hurt MSNBC was that it's anchors got into arguments on camera three times during the democratic convention which is very unprofessional. Fox News has also made a fortune running partisan programming. I think it is sad that what gains ratings is opinion and soap box lecturing for one team or the other rather than simply providing information and a drive by people to be better informed. I really think all three networks are very poor sources of information and never watch them unless for pure entertainment purposes when I'm bored.

Fox is actually not partisan reporting, which is what everyone gets wrong. Brit Hume is an anchor. Openly biased O'Reilly and Hannity are commentators. By putting Olbermann and Matthew's in the anchor seats was just wrong. What Fox gets right is that is has both opinions, but the biased parts are clearly deliniated, while the fair and balanced programs actually are. They make the distinction between what is news and what is commentary.

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Exactly right, and even if Republicans are more likely to watch Fox, no one seems to be more likely to watch MSNBC as they finished dead last on every single night of both conventions. When you have angry partisans in the anchor chair, it is going to turn people off. People watch conventions to hear the candidates speak, not openly biased hacks. If O'Reilly, Hannity, Colmes, or Gibson were anchoring the coverage it would be a similar problem.

These two guys have been in Obama's pocket for a very long time. Criss Mathews had to apologize for: Stating that the only reason Hillary Clinton was in the primary, was because Americans felt sorry for her over her cheating husband". So they were going after the Clinton's too during primary season.--It's obvious to anyone after listening to to them for 30 seconds, that they are 100% behind Barack Obama.

During the RNC convention they had 3 ultra liberals, Criss Mathews, Keith Obermann, & the female being from "air america", on network coverage with 1 republican--(who was continually cut off in mid-sentence.)

Guess what--Keith Obermann is NOW going to cover national "football", he.he. He will still have his show, that only the ultra liberals in this country can stomach, but "football"--give me a break! Obermann's "Countdown" is a total joke, he is more of a "shock jock," than a news anchor.

In my opinon, the only way to clean the biased coverage from NBC & MSNBC is to get rid of Criss Mathews & Keith Obermann altogether. If they don't their ratings will continue to plummett.

For those that don't know: Criss Mathews is the former speech writer for "Jimmy Carter". Keith Obermann has been fired from several networks over his blatant bias, & still has a cemented several year contract with NBC-MSNBC @ 4 million dollars a year. This is who NBC/MSNBC has hired for "unbiased" journalism, ha.ha.ha.!

Your take seems a bit one sided. There are opinion/editorial commentators on almost every network.

One could say... Why did FOX have Hannity covering the RNC on location?
Oh, they also had Colmes there... so it was fair and balanced? Same thing could be said of MSNBC... Pat Buchanon was there, so the coverage was balanced.

These kind of arguments are a bit ridiculous.

The opinion stuff sells and every for-profit network knows it. To claim that one is worse than the other is splitting hairs.

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Olberman is a typical leftist ninny and the network seems to realize that extreme leftist views and commentary aren't as popular as they used to be.

Cutting their losses here.

And leaving moronic leftist commentaries to online internet forums where they're easier to ignore :-)

Keith Olbermann, Chris Matthews Booted From MSNBC Political Anchor Desk

network executives have decided to yank the talkmeister off its politican anchor desk after the cable channel finishing dead last in the Nielsen rankings of all news coverage during the two weeks of political conventions.

The network announced Monday that Olbermann and Chris Matthews have both been booted as co-hosts on political night coverage in favor of David Gregory, whose White House press corps experience may make him better suited to deliver sober and less opinion-driven assessments of the news.

Olbermann’s hard left views and his catfights with other MSNBC hosts have been the talk of gossip pages all summer.

Olbermann’s brash style may also have earned him enemies within his own organization. He was caught on microphones mocking another MSNBC host, Joe Scarborough, when Scarborough was discussing positive developments in McCain’s campaign.

“Jesus, Joe, why don’t you get a shovel?” he asked.

Keith Olbermann, Chris Matthews Booted From MSNBC Political Anchor Desk - America’s Election HQ

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I agree about not having them not hosting debates or conventions. They should be limited to their shows since they are commentators. I was talking about the partisanship of the networks overall which is best represented in their prime time slots. Not only that but watching Matthews and Olbermann a little bit I did notice they just are not that good at it at least they where not during the democratic convention. The Daily Show did a good bit in which they showed three different examples of anchors on MSNBC getting into conflicts with each other in two of them and with a guest in another. They also point out how Matthews says things from time to time on Hardball that are pretty flaky.

Uh, no one's claiming that. We're talking about the difference between anchors and commentators. Try to keep up. Or, you know, read the posts.

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What was the point of your OP then?


That Fox is better than MSNBC?... that MSNBC has been defeated?
That MSNBC might be the downfall of the Obama campaign?

These appear to be the points you make.... and that is what I was responding to. IMO, you'er overreacting as there is more than enough opinion commentary on both sides.

If you're just jumping on the "Blame the media" bandwagon as much as the McCain campiaign is... keep at it...it doesn't help your cause. There's no moral high ground when pointing out opposing extreme viewpoints in the media.

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Threads merged.

Did anyone watch the RNC coverage on MSNBC? I flipped it over after Sarah Palin's speech--& the looks on Mathews, Obermann & the female, from Air America--.. They all had just been called out on national T.V., (with 40 million Americans watching) by some "hockey" mom from small town U.S.A.

They knew it, they knew her speech matched any of their annointed/their chosen one--Barack Obama.

If you didn't see those looks, from these 3 network anchors, they spoke 10,000 words that could never be mentioned on our television screens.

This doesn’t surprise me a bit, I watched all the networks during both, and I will say I believe for the first time that I thought fox was the most professional and had both sides represented during the conventions.

I watched MSNBC and it was a gushing Obama fest, and CNN with Larry king had 3 women all Obama supporters doing the review on palins speech, and then after McCain’s it once again was 3 liberals evaluating his speech and at no time did I hear ( listened via xm while driving ) and conservative view.

Think this is what is hurting both networks is they are biased left and don’t seem to care that they are. The funny thing is people have done campaigns towards FOX in regards to bias but turn a blind eye the shenanigans being perpetrated on MSNBC for Christ sake Rachael Maddow is now a anchor on one of their show which is simulcast on Air America !!!!!!!!!


And to the comment on Hannity for fuck sake, he is on a show on fox, but he is actually given equal time with a liberal....... when does fucking olberman give equal time to anyone with an opposing view???????

What I wonder is when will NBC drop the WHOLE failed network

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I do have to say one thing about the Larry King coverage. His whole thing was giving the other side's response to the speeches. He did the same thing the week before by having Republicans on after the Dem's speeches.