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Old 06-27-2009
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re: Right Wing Extremism

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You need more than one comment? So if you only lynch one minority you're not a racist? But if you lynch two...whoa now, look out buster!

I'm not sure how much of what these people say they actually mean though. I see people on both sides get frustrated about something and then they lash out and say something stupid. I've done it, and I'm sure everyone on this board has done it. The only difference is that they are being recorded.
When did I say anything like that about lynchings? I wish I could talk about lynchings and compare them to comments made in such an offhand way. I guess I don't think about them in such light terms.
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Old 06-28-2009
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re: Right Wing Extremism

The truth is usually described as extremist hate by those opposed to it.
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Old 06-28-2009
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Since the Right-Wing Media is so extreme and has a long history and track-record of the insane, I decided to make a thread to keep up with it.

Here's the first one.

Media Matters Responds To Michael Savage Threats, Cyberstalking (VIDEO)

Some people never learn...do they?

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MarcATL in the words of O'reilly shut up!

Youll find wingnuts like Glen Beck etc only on Fox. The right even has managed to get itself lampooned for years now in the shape of Colbert. This isnt really about dudes like Michael Savage, who are easily dismissed by most Americans. Its about the others who pertain to a modicum of respectibility.

Whats most damning about the right is that they simply have trouble doing comedy. Its because its hard to do satire from a viewpoint which the average human finds its so much easier to satire.
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Re: Right Wing Extremism

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The truth is usually described as extremist hate by those opposed to it.
Interesting. Some examples?
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Old 06-28-2009
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Re: Right Wing Extremism

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Are you somehow implying that Michael Savage isn't extreme?

The first three links are clips of Michael Savage spewing ridiculous spiels of hate and ignorance. I will say there is considerable commentary by The Young Turks in the first three links, which is not my reason for posting the video. The reason is so Michael Savages comments might be heard. The links following those are without the commentary.

YouTube - Michael Savage's Racist Remarks
YouTube - Michael Savage Hate Speech Exposed
YouTube - Michael Savage talks to an African American Man about AIDS and Africa - seriously, Savage has some real problems here.

YouTube - Everyone Else is a Racist to Michael Savage "Go gargle with Rogaine"...
YouTube - Michael Savage Gets Fired
YouTube - Michael Savage - "Eliminate Martin Luther King Day" - "Eliminate MLK Day"

Just a few examples. I found many more.

Right wing media is pretty easy to find, but come on - using Michael Savage as a way to argue against it? You're making it too easy.
Okay, I watched your links. And I am forced to ask the question, do you even know what the word hatred means? I suspect you do know what it means, but still assign the word wrongly to describe those you disagree with, in an attempt to tear them down.

Using TYT as a source might not be the best idea. They are known for playing out of context clips of people they disagree with. Furthermore, in one of the clips you linked to, the "host" benignly describes CAIR as, "an organization that helps American Muslims".Puhleeze. The guy also describes Savage as a racist, and then uses a "boom box" reference to describe blacks in the white house. Which is not a racist comment IMO, but neither is calling for an end to MLK day.

The "get aids and die" comment was definitely over the top. But you still have to consider the context in which it was made. A guy calls a live television show under false pretense, starts out as if he is going to make his original statement, then suddenly says something so vile it has to be beeped out. Savage got pissed, and lashed out. So what. He paid the price for his actions and got fired.

I thought the "gargle with rogaine, and grow a beard on your tongue" comment was pretty good. The caller was an idiot.

Calling for an end to MLK day doesn't make you a racist. Could you please post specific "racist" comments Savage has made? In context please.

Bottom line for me on Savage. I have listened to him off and on for years, and while I do not agree with everything he says, I think he is right on the money concerning many issues facing our country. He is not a racist. He is very well educated, holding a bachelor's degree, two master's degrees, and a Ph.D. He has written over 25 books, including a number one best seller. His style of broadcasting can get annoying at times (with all the yelling), but he also can be very entertaining, and funny as hell.
I think what galls you guys the most about Savage, is he is highly successful, and has a very large audience. Something talkies on your side of the aisle haven't been able to achieve, for what ever reason.

I am honestly surprised at the hatred of Savage from the left, after all he was a fervent, and frequent Bush basher during the Bush administration. Usually that will garner an overlooking of one's faults from you guys on the left.
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Re: Right Wing Extremism

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The truth is usually described as extremist hate by those opposed to it.
It definitely is.

That some folks need "examples," only illustrates how confused by the left-wingidiot media so many of us are.

Very sad that this blindness has become the norm in America. The people will get the govt. they deserve
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Okay, I watched your links. And I am forced to ask the question, do you even know what the word hatred means? I suspect you do know what it means, but still assign the word wrongly to describe those you disagree with, in an attempt to tear them down.

Using TYT as a source might not be the best idea. They are known for playing out of context clips of people they disagree with. Furthermore, in one of the clips you linked to, the "host" benignly describes CAIR as, "an organization that helps American Muslims".Puhleeze. The guy also describes Savage as a racist, and then uses a "boom box" reference to describe blacks in the white house. Which is not a racist comment IMO, but neither is calling for an end to MLK day.

The "get aids and die" comment was definitely over the top. But you still have to consider the context in which it was made. A guy calls a live television show under false pretense, starts out as if he is going to make his original statement, then suddenly says something so vile it has to be beeped out. Savage got pissed, and lashed out. So what. He paid the price for his actions and got fired.

I thought the "gargle with rogaine, and grow a beard on your tongue" comment was pretty good. The caller was an idiot.

Calling for an end to MLK day doesn't make you a racist. Could you please post specific "racist" comments Savage has made? In context please.

Bottom line for me on Savage. I have listened to him off and on for years, and while I do not agree with everything he says, I think he is right on the money concerning many issues facing our country. He is not a racist. He is very well educated, holding a bachelor's degree, two master's degrees, and a Ph.D. He has written over 25 books, including a number one best seller. His style of broadcasting can get annoying at times (with all the yelling), but he also can be very entertaining, and funny as hell.
I think what galls you guys the most about Savage, is he is highly successful, and has a very large audience. Something talkies on your side of the aisle haven't been able to achieve, for what ever reason.

I am honestly surprised at the hatred of Savage from the left, after all he was a fervent, and frequent Bush basher during the Bush administration. Usually that will garner an overlooking of one's faults from you guys on the left.
The left hates savage because he exposes them for the idealist clowns they are. Sure, he gets pissed and makes comments he shouldn't make sometimes, who wouldn't with the diseased idiots that are infecting this country with their utopian ideals that will always cause more problems than they will solve ?

You can show some people the truth and they will always reject or deny it.
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Re: Right Wing Extremism

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who wouldn't with the diseased idiots that are infecting this country
That is the effect Savage has. He breeds hatred and close mindedness, just like his counterparts on the left.

Savage, (or weiner as I like to call him), said that increasing rates of autism are the results of poor people finding a new way to be parasites on the government.

Here he is on autism:

"Now, the illness du jour is autism. You know what autism is? I'll tell you what autism is. In 99 percent of the cases, it's a brat who hasn't been told to cut the act out. That's what autism is. What do you mean they scream and they're silent? They don't have a father around to tell them, "Don't act like a moron. You'll get nowhere in life. Stop acting like a putz. Straighten up. Act like a man. Don't sit there crying and screaming, idiot."

Real stand up guy, eh? I mean, this guy is banned from entering the UK. If your looking for an example of a jack ass, it's hard to find a better example.
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Re: Right Wing Extremism

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That is the effect Savage has. He breeds hatred and close mindedness, just like his counterparts on the left.

Savage, (or weiner as I like to call him), said that increasing rates of autism are the results of poor people finding a new way to be parasites on the government.

Here he is on autism:

"Now, the illness du jour is autism. You know what autism is? I'll tell you what autism is. In 99 percent of the cases, it's a brat who hasn't been told to cut the act out. That's what autism is. What do you mean they scream and they're silent? They don't have a father around to tell them, "Don't act like a moron. You'll get nowhere in life. Stop acting like a putz. Straighten up. Act like a man. Don't sit there crying and screaming, idiot."

Real stand up guy, eh? I mean, this guy is banned from entering the UK. If your looking for an example of a jack ass, it's hard to find a better example.
Yeah, call him weiner - rolls eyes - ..point out that that is his real last name. Childish.

Use his comments on autism out of context and support that Britain banned him because one of the idiots in Britain compared him to murderers and Islamic extremeists - LOL -
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Re: Right Wing Extremism

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Yeah, call him weiner - rolls eyes - ..point out that that is his real last name. Childish.

Use his comments on autism out of context and support that Britain banned him because one of the idiots in Britain compared him to murderers and Islamic extremeists - LOL -
Sounds like I'm getting to you.

Actually he has a lot of similarities to Islamic extremists. It's hilarious that he was banned from Britain. Good for them. If his comments are out of context, please put them back in so I can see how innocent they were.

I have much more respect for people who ignore people like Weiner and his similar crowd on the left, and see them for what they are. Blowhards making money off of people's hatred and division who generally lack the substantive knowledge and intelligence of people like George Will and are only furthering divisions.

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Sounds like I'm getting to you.

Actually he has a lot of similarities to Islamic extremists. It's hilarious that he was banned from Britain. Good for them. If his comments are out of context, please put them back in so I can see how innocent they were.

I have much more respect for people who ignore people like Weiner and his similar crowd on the left, and see them for what they are. Blowhards making money off of people's hatred and division who generally lack the substantive knowledge and intelligence of people like George Will and are only furthering divisions.
Yes, you're "getting to me." - rolls eyes -

Actually, I'm not going to do your work for you. It's nice to use clips of peoples statements to build a case against them.

It's also dishonest.

You beleive what you wish to believe.
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Re: Right Wing Extremism

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Yes, you're "getting to me." - rolls eyes -

Actually, I'm not going to do your work for you. It's nice to use clips of peoples statements to build a case against them.

It's also dishonest.
Oh ok no clips of peoples statements, I'll keep that in mind. If you are going to say it was out of context, I assumed you had a reason. It's too much to ask for you to support you're own assertions?
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Then what is it that you do?
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Don't bother trying to have a rational discussion with Marc, your time will be "collateral damage".

Let me reword that for all of us:


"Don't bother trying to have a rational discussion with [any leftist], your time will be "collateral damage"."


It's always a waste of time trying to have a rational and civil discussion with todays version of "liberal." Always.
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Let me reword that for all of us:


"Don't bother trying to have a rational discussion with [any leftist], your time will be "collateral damage"."


It's always a waste of time trying to have a rational and civil discussion with todays version of "liberal." Always.
But a dangerously furious bigot who gets fired for telling a gay to get aides, banned from other countries for being so hateful he could incite violence, says terrible things about victims of autism so that he is dropped from radio, advocates killing millions of Muslims, says that white christians are everything right about this nation, and hates anyone who disagrees with him...

THAT is who is good to have a rational discussion with. What a joke.

Funny, as soon as I call divisive pundits ON BOTH SIDES what they are - A distraction, and a disservice - I'm called names and branded a leftist. How broadminded.
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That fat slovenly asshole has been so extreme that he's managed to get himself banned from England.

Perhaps you meant to say, "only thinking and sensible people" instead of "only in America?"
I didn't know that England banned Michael Moore.
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