This begs the question of whether there really is much "intellect" in one making such comments doesn't it ?

I think it might

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I'll say this - there is certainly a disparity of intellect between Michael Savage and MarcATL..and it is OBVIOUS.

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Thank you.

Sounds like a big time cop out.

What you are complaining about is the results from America's racist history. Buildng the country, literally, off of the backs of black slaves.

No, you didn't have anything to do with it, but we all have to deal with the consequences of it. I think being asked to check a box indicating race is nothing in comparison.

Who is "you guys?" And why are you so wound up and upset over someone you don't know insulting someone else you don't know?

So you bitch and moan about people committing personal attacks, to turn around and commit...a personal attack.

Talk about Pot'n'Kettling.

Yes, I understand.

What's funny is that lefties attack some of the more outrageous statements made by Savage, usually by taking them out of context. Then they turn around and make even worse statements than Savage has ever made

It's an interesting phenomenon. Attack someone for doing/saying something in certain ways, then turn around and act just like the people you're criticising.

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Well, I never meant that the helicopter comment was racist, but rather twisting the facts, only giving part of the story, so it appeared (false as it was) that Obama was trying to spend billions selfishly on a new helicopter. I listen to Hannity go on for fifteen minutes about something that was ordered shortly after 911. If I used Hannity's logic I would assume that he (Hannity) now opposed the helicopter because Bush is no longer president(or because we now have a Democratic President), but I will not make that claim. I will claim that Hannity, Rush, Beck et al, will attack Obama for anything he does, even if they would cheered Bush for the same action. And Rush in particular has a stanglehold on the Republican party, just ask Micheal Steele.

As far as Rush's comment on Powell, We have an overweight, three times divorced, drug addicted, sex tourist who never spent a day in uniform who believes he is qualified to judge that decision of a decorated combat veteran who rose to chairman of the joint chiefs of staff. Even if Powell had made the decision with "historic" considerations, Rush's comment is still racist, because he repeated that the decision was "soley" based on race. That would mean that there was no other consideration other than race. I'll ask again does any one seriously believe Powell would have supported Al Sharpton? Did Chris Buckley decide to support Obama because of race or did he(Buckley) believe that Obama was perhaps the best canidate. In case every conservative has forgotten there were plenty of Obamicans. I'm old enough to remember Eisenhower, sure he was a Republican but also a Keynsian, and his granddaughter(lifelong Republican) supported Obama. Was that a race based decision? Powell also stated he had voted for Carter, because he thought he was the best man to lead the country and then voted for Reagan for the same reason. For most of us we are Dems or Reps because it is closest to what we believe, but many of us do have the ability to acknowledge intelligence and leadership on the other side. I have no problem with people stating what they believe, I used to read many conservatives editorials, but in the last few years many "conservative editorialists" have in my opinion become shills for the Republicans or worse. Example, I'll read Pat Buchanan even though I seldom agree with him, his thinking is his own. Writers like Ann Coulter and Michele Malkin aren't worth the time.

My main point in my original post was that we need serious dialouge concerning what we as a nation face today. I don't think we'll get that from the RWM, because all that we hear is that Obama is wrong and will destoy our nation. We will never get reasonable discussion that way.

Will we get reasonable discussion from the LWM that idolizes this guy and seems to never question anything he does ?

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Even if Rush is wrong about Powell voting for Obama solely based on the fact that Obama is black, that still isn't racist. That's simply his opinion of Powell's motivation. He could say that Powell voted for Obama because he likes purple underwear. It's just his idea of what motivate Powell. If Rush hated Powell and Obama because they were black, that would be racist. You are bastardizing what being a racist really is. Disagreeing with a minority doesn't make you a racist.

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You obviously don't watch Oberman or Racheal Madow or listen to Helen Thomas, they all have serious disagreements w/the current president. Even if the like and respect him.

overwieght? drug addicted? I see classy....thx for clueing me early I can just skirt by your screeds......later.

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No, I don't watch olberman and the rest. Don't know when they're on. I don't watch right wing teevee either. Don't have the time or the channels (if I do, I don't know about it).

I listen to talk radio on my drive to work. That's about it. It's entertaining and they do have some good things to say. I'm totally sick of teevee, it's just stupid most of it, so I don't watch it.

If I want news I mainly get it from about 4 or 5 places online, MSN included

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Accept for the simple fact that his doings are questioned constantly.

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Guess who?

Well the Captain admitted he doesn't watch television, so I will except his comment. But others who make that comment may assume that because the RWM for the most part supported Bush( with exceptions), that the LWM would do the same with Obama. Anyone who pays attention to progressive commentators will know that while they may like the president and agree with him more than 51% of the time, they certainly have disagreements with him already. I wonder if Fox News(sic) had any disagreement w/Bush at this point in his presidency.

Maybe, those two comments weren't exactly kosher. I was trying to illustrate that based on what headlines Rush has created vs what Powell has accomplished in his life. It would appear that Rush doesn't have credentials to assertain what motivates Powell. That was a little hyperbole, to make a point no where near the misrepresentation of Hannity about the helicopter. Rush is overweight and has had drug problems, Obama had nothing to do with ordering the helicopters that Hannity raged about. I guess a slight exaggeration by someone on the left , Rush is overweight and has had drug problems, upsets you but total falsification by the RWM is OK.

No, don’t guess just ask....using someone’s appearance or drug addiction, most especially, is crass and speaks to a lack of cogent points to buttress a position, if you had them, you would not need to slime them on that level.

Do I now follow the prevalent diatribe and say; “well, that’s the left for you”?

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Indeed, there are threads on this forum running now prove this point.

Though dont expect them to be noticed.

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Guess who?