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View Poll Results: how do ye view yer fellow americans?
1. i believe the majority 'o americans are informed and well versed on the issues 3 4.29%
2. i believe the majority 'o americans are uninformed and not well versed on the issues 60 85.71%
3. i believe conservatives are well informed and liberals be misinformed 4 5.71%
4. i believe liberals are well informed and conservatives are misinformed 3 4.29%
Voters: 70. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 08-13-2009
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Re: are americans stupid / uninformed?

Uncle Sam/ the CIA wants Americans to be easier to manipulate,

and free speech to go away, my college Prof. always said that the
American govmnt hates the Constitution, its true and the NeoCons
and the GOP regularly whizz on it.

Of course thats Fox broadcastings whole schtick:

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You're bringing down America!
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(Fox accuses, as Rush does, its enemies of doing what it itself does, Gestapo tactics)


Its bad enough that A-hole Colbert mimicks them.
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Old 08-13-2009
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Re: are americans stupid / uninformed?

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Humans are no more stupid in America than they are around the world, they'res some very, very intellegent Americans out there and some very stupid ones, like most nationalities. Howver Americans do seem to be less well informed than most people, either because of some frankly terrible TV news shows or because of Americas insular nature. The education system over there dosn't help either.

Just an observation from outside.
I think that is on the spot tbh. Looking from outside. And knowing quite a few Americans. There is obviously a great many people who are smart.

But the incentive to educate yourself on the current issue is not really there. And people have better things to do than focusing on every far away event. This is where cable news comes in. It gives a fresh, quick perspective on the news. To bad it's laced with twisted one sided information and no real thorough in debt insight towards those issues. Only television I can think which is worse than the US on is the Italian one. Everything is about being entertaining. Not about being informative.
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Old 08-13-2009
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Re: are americans stupid / uninformed?

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Largely uninformed (like 95% of the citizens are pretty uninformed on most topics). A large number of people with jobs, families, etc, simply don't have the time to educate themselves on the issues of the day.

Somewhat stupid (1/3rd of the citizens are really stupid - that said, the smart ones are really smart).

I've been to Europe, Africa, Central America, etc. Even people I met in the street in Nairobi were more informed about US politics than most americans.
95%?

I would say between 30% and 40%.

Its better then the UK or Canada where the majority of people just accept what their politicians say and go with the flow.

XXXX is good and YYYYYY is bad.

At least dissent isn't the forbidden fruit YET in the US.
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Old 08-14-2009
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Re: are americans stupid / uninformed?

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Not stupid, just largely misinformed. Like most people on the planet.

Andrew
You think canadians are better informed about politics, history, and geography?
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I think that is on the spot tbh. Looking from outside. And knowing quite a few Americans. There is obviously a great many people who are smart.

But the incentive to educate yourself on the current issue is not really there. And people have better things to do than focusing on every far away event. This is where cable news comes in. It gives a fresh, quick perspective on the news. To bad it's laced with twisted one sided information and no real thorough in debt insight towards those issues. Only television I can think which is worse than the US on is the Italian one. Everything is about being entertaining. Not about being informative.
Funny enough Italy and US are the countries where people watch the most TV per day. If americans only had access to the BBC channells and bothered to watch them they would soon become much better informed.
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Funny enough Italy and US are the countries where people watch the most TV per day. If americans only had access to the BBC channells and bothered to watch them they would soon become much better informed.
Seriously? Because there's as much bias in there as in Fox or MSNBC. What I like about the American channels is that everyone is so much more open about it.
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aye.

so, i'd just sailed home from a hard day's work and i was flippin' 'round the news channels whilst enjoyin' me dinner.

on the tv show called "hardball", the interviewee was Katie Ahbrams, a lass who'd spoke out strongly against the current healthcare reform and i was thinkin' that it was painful to behold.

whilst watchin' this, i was recallin' how often folks on the good ship USPOL cite polls to buttress thar points 'o view while at the same time, often referrin' americans as "sheeple" and uninformed/ignorant.

with that in mind, i was curious how y'all view yer fellow americans.

*waits patiently*

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I suppose the question is pretty subjective. I think that when most people say that others are uninformed about "the issues", they include in this group (1) anyone who disagrees with them about an issue and (2) anyone who doesn't care as much as they do about an issue.

So yes, according to anyone speaking in this fashion, the majority of people are uninformed.
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Re: are americans stupid / uninformed?

In a word: apathy
Particularly political, societal apathy.
Political apathy is an evolutionary result of political despair. Both are symptoms of a population that has given up on government. (to which the gov't is all too happy)
Societal apathy is the result of a numbness due to cheap entertainment and the ability to instantly satisfy many desires. Think of the coliseum in Rome...one of the smartest things the Roman government did.

And...America is by no means alone in this.
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In a word: apathy
Particularly political, societal apathy.
Political apathy is an evolutionary result of political despair. Both are symptoms of a population that has given up on government. (to which the gov't is all too happy)
Societal apathy is the result of a numbness due to cheap entertainment and the ability to instantly satisfy many desires. Think of the coliseum in Rome...one of the smartest things the Roman government did.

And...America is by no means alone in this.
Ain't that the truth.
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You think canadians are better informed about politics, history, and geography?
As per my post i think Canadians are as misinformed as anybody when it comes to current events.

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Re: are americans stupid / uninformed?

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Funny enough Italy and US are the countries where people watch the most TV per day. If americans only had access to the BBC channells and bothered to watch them they would soon become much better informed.
Might it be because they then sit and watch mindless entertainment? I to find watching Family Guy and American Idol very entertaining. But their hardly informative now are they? Clearly not representative for all aspects the US television market. There are some really great informative channels which get very high ratings. Such as Discovery Channel, TLC, etc. But when you just go by ratings, which represent income in terms of ads etc. Then when people turn on the TV to get Entertainment and Sports. You'll going to get a higher average that the informative shows. So you automatically tune the channel into a more entertainment based source. You might say: Well, thats what the people wants. And your right. They want that. But they also need to be greatly informed. Thats what our basis of government rests on. The informed public. If you always have the choice between watching football and a debate on the interaction between church and state. 95% is going to chose to watch football.
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No.

The media is dumbed down so that the Oligarchs can assert control
24-7 of what the masses think and hear.

Sarah Palin takes a s---! Its news, get the camera.
More accurately, Americans are oppressed by the Fox/CNN Big Brother
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Re: are americans stupid / uninformed?

The number of Americans who can name a member of the Supreme Court or even the Vice President is shockingly low. Forget knowing their House Representative.
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Old 08-15-2009
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Largely uninformed (like 95% of the citizens are pretty uninformed on most topics). A large number of people with jobs, families, etc, simply don't have the time to educate themselves on the issues of the day.

Somewhat stupid (1/3rd of the citizens are really stupid - that said, the smart ones are really smart).

I've been to Europe, Africa, Central America, etc. Even people I met in the street in Nairobi were more informed about US politics than most americans.
It used to be a good thing that Americans were uniformed. Why? Because government wasn't much of a part of our lives. As government has grown bigger with every president since Reagan, it's becoming increasingly dangerous for Americans to ignore what's going on in DC.
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The BIG and controversial question here is why America is such a rich developed and organized country, when such a large part of its population are so stupid and ignorant? I just dont understand that contradiction, I really dont!
The simple answer to this is that we aren't lazy, like the rest of the world. Yes, we may play hard but we work harder than anyone else. Look it up for yourself. We work more hours than any other nation, on this Earth.

I remember there being riots in France and over a 100 cars being burned when they raised the work week from 30 hrs to 35...

For God's sake!!! A 30 hr work weak is friggin pathetic. Hell, even their 35 hr work week Americans would kill for as that would be seen as a gravy shift. Plain and simple we work hard and earn what we get. Other countries are complacent with the gov giving them everything through a bottle. Of course this has a negative side effect of more stress which shortens our life span and causes more illnesses *shrug*
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