Practically everyone is mixed-race. I'm not sure it's a particularly useful or descriptive term.

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Perhaps the way forward is to stop acting as though it matters. That means that we all need to get off our individual crosses, use the wood to build a bridge and get the fuck over it together.

I suggest only that we prove to the morons that we are all more or less equal by that most obnoxious of methods - demonstration.

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As said by Roosevelt......

My point was the current PC term is mixed race. ( not that I give a damn about PC) These things change, like from American Indian to Native American. I still wonder what Obama would have been labeled had he been half black-half hispanic. Wanna take a shot at it?

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You can take my comparison further. You wouldn't know a pedo as you and your child walked passed him at the ballgame. Only a really, REALLY dumb guy would wear his NAMBLA t-shirt to the soccer game. I see guys with rebel flags on their trucks and it raises a flag. It doesn't mean shit to have a rebel flag on your truck but I'm raising the flag just in case.

It isn't the idiots wearing doc marts or white sheets anyones concern about, you see them coming. It's the guys that have the same opinion and attitude about race as skins and racialist who both are in positions of public or private power and the good sense to keep their politics to a small, concentrated circle.

The Bible says: A good man out of the good treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is good; and an evil man out of the evil treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is evil: for of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaketh

When people say things like, "Maybe Obama can teach them to stop shooting each other and start raising the babies they make." or, "If they understand stuff like why 7 of 10 black fathers do not play any role in the lives of children they create, I wish they'd enlighten the rest of us.
(Whitey made them do it)" These are negative connotations. This is how a particular person feels and sees African-Americans (see I couldn't have just said americans there) and because this is what is in their heart this is what they attribute or tack onto every black male they see first-

I bet he's got x amount of kids from x amount of women.

I bet he's got a criminal record.

This type of attitude is presuming an individual guilty and not judging the man by the content of his character, and this is called prejudice, a acute symptom of racism.

Now as I stated there are people that have the good sense to keep their ideas to themselves, but another distinguishing trait of a racist is lack of good and common sense.

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Whoa whoa whoa.... I used to wear Docs all the time... and Fred Perry's too... and a little plaid skirt. And I am FAR from a racist.

I always had yellow, black or purple laces... (purple mostly... sometimes red just to be an asshole since the whole lace color thing is retarded)

To say that you can tell a racists by the shoes they wear is a whole new thing.

You must have some serious super powers!

Wow! Everybody, look who's playing the victim!!!

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Victim?

No... not even.

I was trying to politely tell you that you can tell if someone is a racist by the shoes they wear.

I am amazed that you can judge a man based on the shoes he wears or a flag he may wear or have on his car, but you call people racist because they have assumptions based on the color of a mans skin.

How does it make you any better? A label is a label, a stereotype is a stereotype.

Failed. Twice.

and further FBI agents infiltrated the KKK by posing as members; wearing the white sheets. Of course not everyone who wears docs is racist, so for trying to create discord where there ought not be any was your second fail.

And I'll give you extra credit for cherry picking my post for the most uninformative yet most easy-to-take out of context sentence and commenting on it as opposed to the relatively substanative remainder where I might add I referenced your previous quote from Roosevelt pertaining to hyphenated americans.

But lets forget intelligent discussion and exchange of ideas and do this low-denominator shit instead.

Edit: I made a mistake and saw that you did comment further. Now, make note it is you who says "judge" I said raise a flag so don't get it in your mind twisted. If I see a guy with a swastica tattoo it raises a flag. If I see a group of blacks wearing all red head to toe, it raises a flag. If I see a rat scurry behind the counter at Biggie burger, it raises a flag. I don't judge, I have neither the knowledge or the power and I have no ability to convict. Now that I've untwisted and removed that "judge" label you tried to pin on me, the rest of your post is inane.

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Whoa... why so hateful? How did I "fail"? I was merely questioning your post. YOU stated that "It doesn't mean shit to have a rebel flag on your truck but I'm raising the flag just in case." then proceded to stated "This type of attitude is presuming an individual guilty and not judging the man by the content of his character, and this is called prejudice,"

I am only questioning your logic on when it is acceptable to "presume an individual guilty and not judge the man by the content of his character".

If it is "low-denominator shit", why are you posting it to begin with?

I don't think it is ever acceptable presume a person guilty and I did not say anything to the contrary. A person is judge by their actions, whether that be a physical action or speech. If a man comes into your presence wearing a black panther shirt (speech) black power fist it is safe to assume this mans politics, and if you were bold enough to confront this man and ask him why he believes in such an idea and he says he doesn't its just a fashion thing then you can now assume with some surety that he is reckless and obtuse. A man with the rebel flag (speech)raises flags in my mind but it doesn't mean he is racist, but it does gleen to the possibility.

If you go around saying, "Maybe Obama can teach them to stop shooting each other and start raising the babies they make." That's the height of ignorance.

Who are "them"? Surely not all men who shoot each other and do not take care of their children because the original poster has already qualified who he is speaking of. In his wide, inaccurate net of castigation he has ensnared me. But he does not know me. He thinks he does, but he does not. He thinks he knows blacks, that we shoot each other and have children without raising them. Therefore he is the exact person who should be watching "Black in America."

To be very blunt. That exact attitude; this example is the exact type of shit that makes shit difficult for regular people. It gets to the point to where people can't joke, can't express themselves honestly, have to parse out words in fear of being misunderstood or labeled a racist. Many people who aren't racist are being observed because something they say, do or wear resembles the words or actions or look of meaner men. And it is not fair...that when you rock your docs I say hmmm, but that's all I say. Docs don't make a racist, as I quoted "of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaketh." If it looks, swims, smells, flys like a duck then it probably tastes like one.


But here is why I am short with you:

I won't let you snip quotes and place them in positions that condemn me. Hell, you shouldn't even try, the original posts are there to compare. I suggest you reread them again and approach the discussion with more honesty. Because that shit I just quoted above IS NOT what I stated.

But your probably a cool person with lots of friends. You seem smart. I fear you are defending the indefensible = 0.

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But, that is where I think that there is a disconnect. I don't understand why it is OK to "raise a flag" with someone in regards to a rebel flag. I know people who aren't racist who have that flag and I have asked them about it. They blather on about southern heritage and blah blah blah. Honestly, I don't really care. I have no ties to the south, I have no family from the south, and I could really care less about the flag. But, in your post, you do state that you "raise the flag just in case". There ARE racist who fly that flag, but I have also in my life had a big group of black girls taunt me and call me every name that a black girl could call a white girl... that is walking alone... downtown Cincy... (this wasn't the first time that I have had derogatory comments to me from young black people in Cincinnati... and I am sure it won't be the last) BUT, if I were to take that experience and "raise a flag" when walking past a group of black girls, I would then be called a racist. I would then be doing the same thing that you do with the Rebel flag. Would I not? However, I'm not "allowed" within our society to take that experience and in the future "raise a flag". Again, I would be labeled a racist... and we both know it.

So, with that... I think that there are some things lost in posting on the internet. You want to be able to raise a flag when you see something that you personally feel may be offensive to you or may do you harm. (which is your right) But, if as a white person, I do that in the same manner that you do, only my "raised flag" would be a group of late teen/early 20 black girls, I would be labeled a racist.

As far as poster who write things such as 7 out of 10 black babies are born to homes with no father in the house, that is a statistical truth. And, while they could put it a little differently, that doesn't change anything that it is a fact. Fact is, most of the gang banging crime is black on black crime. That isn't something that most people say to be racist (at least I don't) it's just a fact. I can't change the fact that 70% of all black children are born out of wedlock anymore than I can change the fact about black on black crime. I can't go across the river and try to tell the black people that live in Over the Rhine to quite having so many children with so many different men/women. I listen to some rap music and honestly... I see where so many of today's black youths get it. "fucking hos and bitches" making money off dope, shootin' niggas up. I don't get it. Maybe it's because I am just some white girl from KY who doesn't understand... that may be. But, as a parent who grew up in a broken home with parents who fought over "who would take her" because I interfered with their "new and improved family", I want more for my son. It's up to me to break that cycle. No one can do it for me. This is my life and I take responsibility for what I do. That's all I can do. It does me no good to whine about what a piss poor childhood I had. All that does is make me have a piss poor adult life, too.

So, I don't know what the answer is to make changes in the black community in the inner cities to make them realize that education IS important. Having lots of babies by different men/women is only making more children have a shitty life. Gang banging isn't cool. Dealing dope isn't cool. I don't know what I can do as some "white chick" to help make those changes. This has to come from within the community. Bill Cosby said some things YEARS ago that caused all kinds of commotion and boycotts and everything else. All he was stating was the truth. It does start with the individual. Nothing can come from the government. After years upon years of government handouts through welfare, how has that made ANY of those communities better? (and NO... I am not saying this only about black people... the same could be said for white in communities where welfare recipients are prevalent). Welfare doesn't help anyone. It only makes them dependent on the state. What type of self worth does one have when they are basically a slave to the government? (and not to mention run a father out of the house since a woman can't get welfare if the father is in the home)

Why actually... yes I am. You seem to be as well. We would probably do quite well discussing this over a couple beers.

Okay the difference between the rebel flag and the group of girls was made when I stated in an earlier post that people are defined by their action and rhetoric. The rebel flag is an outward expression, a communication, a form of speech. It is also a form of speech that is often used by racist. As I said twice before a rebel flag does not make a racist but it raises the concern. Now in your case you are trying to say that you raising a red flag when you see a group of black girl ain't the same. The group of black girls may be girl scouts, honor students, nuns and for you to raise the red flag merely because they are black would make you assessment correct, that would be racist. Now if one were to say "look at that white bitch." now they have demonstrated part of their character through speech. If one were wearing a "kill whitey" shirt you probably better do more than just raise the flag. But to compare our two examples ain't the same, not even in the same ballpark.

As for the 7 out of ten that Obama should correct I would say to that person "Wouldn't that be very exclusive (and knowing this posters politics) be construed as racist if he didn't solve the white problem too?" Or is it that the whites don't have a problem with that? The poster spoke as if the problem of violence and paternal irresponsibilty are solely African-american problems. One could easily find the stats that say white males kill their partners overwhelmingly more than any other race. Perhaps Rush should address this blight on the white race as opposed to concerning himself with socialist presidents and black quarterbacks. You see, we can throw rocks all fucking day, and that is exactly what that type of comment usually concludes to. Have no illusion, the posters comment was not made to be constructive, informative or even a lame attempt at humor, it was intended to be spiteful and injurous - but failed woefully. Because if there is any true axiom about racist, sexist, or anybody with an illogical attitude its that they are projecting. Angry people stay angry. Hate eats from the inside out. And you can usually wait for those types of people to corrode. But you kinda hope they don't breed.

As for your last paragraph. You say you don't know what you can do to help inner city youth break the cycle. Well, you are not a lib so I don't expect you to do anything - and that happens to be the best course of action. Those that want to get out and are strong enough to escape do. Here is something a lot of people don't think about. The police never patrol bad areas in force like they should. Of course if they did this would be a great deterent. Instead, they patrol the well to do realty. They make sure the quiet is kept quiet, and the well to do rest peacefully knowing that their area is well patrolled and guarded. It is only when the shit pops and someone calls the police do they go to the hood, and then its a murder investigation. Its not fucking rocket science, and you don't have to feign deep thought and consideration. Its the same damn problems 1880s New York City had but it wasn't blacks it was Irish and Italian, having babies, selling opium, killing each other, and being called less than human by self-righteous WASPs who had the means and influence to keep the rif-raf from blowing in their yards.

You want to do something. Next time you rub shoulders with Ron Paul you ask him why police departments across the nation have a reaction policy instead of a prevention policy in low income areas. If you don't have plans to see him soon, then write your congressperson. Either way you said you didn't know what to do, well, here's a beginning for you and anybody else who feels that they are at their wits end over the "black problem". I'll be anticipating hearing what results you were able to create.

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ALL minority stereotypes are 100% true!

Sorry to tell you the majority of minorities perpetuate stereotypes.

Yeah, I do in fact know a black guy I used to work with who was only 26 but had 11 kids and the paycheck to show for it. As a matter of fact this motherfucker had 2 different kids by two different "baby mommas" who shared the exact same birth date.

Yes, nearly all of my minority friends growing up are either dead or in jail, don't worry most of my white friends are dead or in jail too.

My point is MOST minorities live in the ghetto and these mutherfuckers do a fine job living up to the stereotypes that a lot of middle class liberals want to write off as fallacies, justify or cloak.

Yea a lot of this shit is negative BUT that doesn't mean it should just be ignored, IGNORING it is stupid and helps nothing.

The truth is liberals just get offended when I say all this shit because I'm not the right "tint." You know what though? I don't really fucking care, skin color is NOT an issue to me so I'm going to treat minorities the same way I treat whites. I'm not going to make exceptions for them or go with the special treatment white liberals give them. FUCK THAT, I don't subscribe to the special standards for minorities. We all have to live up to the same standards and if a particular race collectively is a liability and isn't pulling their weight because the majority of that particular race feels owed something then I'm going to point that shit out and say its wrong.

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