Well, the right has it fair share of nuts too. Swoop is one for example. He's just retarded. But you don't see conservatives make excuses for his appauling behavior by citing Kunte's equally abhorrent posting style. We're not apologists for that sort of garbage like you seem to have become.

Even at that, they're not as bad as this piece of work. He is by far, the worst excuse for a poster we have here.

Put it this way: You're to the left aren't you? You seem to have liberal views, but you don't have spastic hissy fits and outrageous attacks of terrets syndrome when you post.

Unless he has some mental condition precluding him from posting without looking like he has rabies (in which case he shouldn't be posting anyway), he has no excuse for it.

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Well, theres that, and the fact that they make millions doing it, while he just plays paddycake with a bunch of "experts" on an internet forum.

And therein is the big difference. They do it for profit. He does it to troll. Using tactics deliberately copied from morons makes you an unoriginal moron.

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The diff being , of course , is that they don't know they are acting like morons. Unless they are only in it for the money (which I always suspected of Rush anyway) and that makes his dittoheads the morons.
I do not need money that bad.

Beck himself makes millions doing it. His 2 million looney followers don't make a dime off it as far as I can tell.

I guess that's fair enough. The subtle difference is I'm being an apologist for a guy who knows he's using the other side's tactics against them. You're just being an apologist for a loon.

This actually kind of disagrees with your earlier paragraph. But I don't want to get into that because its discussing other posters instead of politics or ideas.

The closest way to describe myself is I have liberal social views, and I'm fiscally conservative. That doesn't make me left or right (or I'd really like someone to rationally explain how that does make me left or right). It also means I'm party-less, since neither party stands for those ideals at the moment. Libertarians are the closest. I frequently get called a "librul" because I happen to prefer to point out the failings of the right. That's one tactic the right uses, even ones that don't come across quite as looney as the person you mentioned .... categorize someone as something they're not (and something you happen to dislike) because you don't like what they have to say.

I'm certainly not perfect, I do it too, refering to rightwingers as disparagingly as they refer to libruls. It has become the nature of politics since Rove, et al's divisive tactics became the norm.

Sorry, that was meant to read "we're not" apologists, i editted that in after.

Let me make it clear: i can't stand swoop and he is nowhere near what i would call a conservative, and equally disruptive.

I wish you wouldn't be an apologist for Knute though, he doesn't deserve it and isn't worthy of any support of any sort. People like him destroy this forum.

Meh, some of them become the issue so much with their obtuse and abusive behavior that its unavoidable. I just wish you wouldn't excuse it. The right can say that about Swoop, i wish you could say it poster on the left, in the same way.

Look, to put it simply, you can be civil about it. That's the difference. Even if he's just doinbg it to immitate someone else's tactics, that doesn't excuse it. If he wants to behave like a loon, he'll get treated like one.

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You're one of the few to come out and state that. I'll come out and state that Knute uses tactics that bother me when rightwingers use them. It bothers me less when Knute does it because he's one compared to the millions on the right (Beck followers).

Think of it like the night of the living dead. One guy pretending to be a zombie might be a bit disturbing or possibly irritating. 2 million actual zombies chanting "more brains" is actually really scary.

I try to be civil to those who are civil to me.

As far as other posters treating him like a loon, it doesn't seem to bother him what rightwingers think of him.

In post 37 you can tell there is a rational thinking person who actually does give meaningful information if you're willing to pursue it.

Pssst- I told you they wouldn't get it.

Let me be clear - I am not a republican, I'm a centerist libertarian with no party affiliation, what you might call an independant. I hate the authoritarian policies of both parties equally, more or less, depending on the political climate. Your attacking Limbaugh for assembling an army of fawning fans does nothing to irritate me.

What does irritate me is when I am lumped in with the damned right wing retards who can't be bothered to form an opinion of their own, just as I resent being lumped in with the left wing lunatics who can't be bothered to form an opinion of their own. Neither group pays a damned bit of attention to the positions of their candidates, they just use the parties the same way street gang members use the gangs.

Rush and Beck and Hannity are probably in it for the money, just like Olberman and Moore and Mahr. My only statement was that they were all smart enough to assemble a paying audience to listen to their partisan hackery. Didn't your parents teach you that if you're good at something never to do it for free?

The tactics you use are idiotic and deplorable when the right wing uses them. It is no different when you use them. You see how stupid they look when they're reduced to namecalling? They can't help it, they're idiots. You can.

EDIT: And yes, Knute, I get what you're doing. You're pretending to be a moron so you can draw people into arguments you have no stake in, using the same tactics as right wing morons. I just don't think it's nearly as clever as you seem to. Simply childish. I usually just ignore it, but I'm feeling particularly thin skinned today for some reason.

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The really stupid thing is most of us don't listen to those hacks so it makes Knute look like the bigger ass.

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Well i hope more do the same, Swoop is just as much the jackass that Kunte is.

When we've had others on the right like that, we've thrown them under the bus just as fast.

It was before your time here, but we used to have a poster called Dammit Boy, who was the worst, defective-gene based, inbred, carpet bagger, that manage to piss off the entire forum single handedly by his abusive crap towards Mrs. M.

The whole forum rallied round her (apart from one or two folks who had huge issues of their own) and none of us on the right defended. That bastard has long since left here, and will never return.

He got the treatment he deserved and people like him deserve no sympathy nor any respect or understanding.

Yeah and i certainly don't lump you in the same catergory as him. But that doesn't mean i see any good in him where there isn't any.

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Plagiarism, as defined in the 1995 Random House Compact Unabridged Dictionary, is the "use or close imitation of the language and thoughts of another author and the representation of them as one's own original work."[1]

1) The reason you get it is because you are NOT one of them.
2) It is nice to know I can get a rise from an independent as well.
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