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Re: Woodstock Generation...WTF happened?

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Do you think that maybe people like Pelosi, Reid, Franks (well he may be too young) Dodd, and some of the other leftist freaks in DC did a little too much acid and MDMA in the 60s and are having permanent flashbacks?

Just saying.
Franks is almost 70. He's definitely not oo young...
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One of the funniest things I ever saw was a news report where Ayers was bothered by a Fox reporter outside his home and called the police. There are no limits to hypocrisy.
He did the same thing to me actually...

I was at Northwestern a couple of years ago just hanging out at the lakefront and who did I see just walking?

You guessed it.

I gave him an earful and he was quite viably shaking and threatened to call the cops.

I really cant blame him though, I would be worried to if some random person came up to me and started talking shit.

It was pretty funny though because my friends had absolutely no idea what was going on and why I was seemingly yelling at some random guy about blowing shit up.
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Just a thought here JD, but in the woodstock days those people (hippies) were the liberals of the day......they were all about being "free". The liberals today are all about imposing a plethera of rules , regulations, criteria, etc on everyone to make them obey the liberal vision for America, and in a lot of cases, the world. So yeah, WTF happened? Look at liberal California, there are probably the least free people in the union. Sitting here in Texas I have to laugh at what Californians have allowed to happen to themselves. Liberal freedon indeed.
Liberals are happy to sacrifice freedoms for the sake of ideas they hold dear to there hearts.

Environmentalism is a fantastic example of this.

As a matter of fact one of the founders of Greenpeace actually turned his back on the group because he claims it was hijacked by a bunch of crazy ass liberals who are only for his cause to combat capitalism.
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Liberals are happy to sacrifice freedoms for the sake of ideas they hold dear to there hearts.

Environmentalism is a fantastic example of this.
And the patriot act is a fantastic example of conservatives willing to support larger more intrusive government that pursues unconstitutional searches and seizures. They're simultaneously sacrificing freedoms AND sacrificing the ideas they supposedly hold dear to their hearts.
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And the patriot act is a fantastic example of conservatives willing to support larger more intrusive government that pursues unconstitutional searches and seizures. They're simultaneously sacrificing freedoms AND sacrificing the ideas they supposedly hold dear to their hearts.
The liberal in chief likes roving wiretaps, the seizure of business records and the monitoring of suspected "lone wolf" terrorists just fine.

The Woodstock crowd would have suspected conservatives of supporting such stuff, but liberals?
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The liberal in chief likes roving wiretaps, the seizure of business records and the monitoring of suspected "lone wolf" terrorists just fine.

The Woodstock crowd would have suspected conservatives of supporting such stuff, but liberals?
That's why libertarians and some liberals are calling him bush 3.0. You will never see a rightwinger call Obama bush 3.0.

Why aren't the rightwingers dissing Obama for those violations of our freedom? Because rightwingers LOVE to see big government trampling on our civil liberties. But they hate Obama so they make up shit like him being a racist or that he was born in Kenya or that he's a commie socialist.
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You will never see a rightwinger call Obama bush 3.0.
There's a shock.

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Why aren't the rightwingers dissing Obama for those violations of our freedom?
You just aren't looking hard enough.
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That's why libertarians and some liberals are calling him bush 3.0. You will never see a rightwinger call Obama bush 3.0.

Why aren't the rightwingers dissing Obama for those violations of our freedom? Because rightwingers LOVE to see big government trampling on our civil liberties. But they hate Obama so they make up shit like him being a racist or that he was born in Kenya or that he's a commie socialist.

well, relative to bankrupting the nation, listening to my international calls to suspected terrorists just doesnt seem as serious.
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Do you think that maybe people like Pelosi, Reid, Franks (well he may be too young) Dodd, and some of the other leftist freaks in DC did a little too much acid and MDMA in the 60s and are having permanent flashbacks?

Just saying.
It would be hard to have 'flashbacks' from MDMA since it doesn't cause them and it wasn't a street drug in the 60's.

Just saying.
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well, relative to bankrupting the nation, listening to my international calls to suspected terrorists just doesnt seem as serious.
I don't let the government's fiscal policy determine my personal economic practices. In any case, every check I write to the IRS is a bold statement as to how bad government is abusing its power. I have a very handy monitor on how their fiscal policies are affecting me.

However if the government is spying on my illegally, its damn near impossible to tell if they're doing it until its too late and we're living in George Orwell's 1984.

So I'm a hell of a lot more scared about the government spying, upon any whim they see fit (since no judicial oversight at all is required) to my private conversations.
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The Woodstock crowd pushed for changes that they wanted, got them, and then were satisfied. So, yesterday's liberals (as always) turned into today's conservatives. In 40 years, when the changes sought by this generation's youth have been adopted and codified, they will be the conservatives that are leery of whatever the children of 2049 want to change.
this.
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I caught myself watching a documentary on Woodstock a couple of days ago and while watching I couldn't help but wonder when did liberalism separate itself from liberty? Would that crowd of kids support what has happened and what is looming on the horizon?

Coercive egalitarianism, central planning, rejecting personal responsibility and government oversight of free institutions are all part of modern liberalism that seem so very far from the ideals of Woodstock.

WTF happened?

It's probably a worthwhile topic to compare classical liberalism to modern liberalism.......but Woodstock really fits nowhere in the discussion.
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I don't know. From what I see from the Democrats, they have turned into a bunch of marxist and socialist looking for some bullshit utopia.
Not from my vantage point. What I see now is that the Democrats are the Republican party of a generation ago while the Republicans nowadays are totally out to lunch. How else to account for the fact that they rail against gov't health insurance but won't give up their own gov't plans?
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It's probably a worthwhile topic to compare classical liberalism to modern liberalism.......but Woodstock really fits nowhere in the discussion.
It does as a cultural identifier.
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Re: Woodstock Generation...WTF happened?

It's sharp contrast between landing on the moon in July, and rolling around in the mud in August.
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