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    Bill O'Reilly: Atheists Are Jealous Of The Holiday

    Here is a video of Bill O'Reilly on ads by humanists.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sX_URHACJPw
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    Re: Bill O'Reilly: Atheists Are Jealous Of The Holiday

    Only christians can enjoy the holidays, as they are founded on christianity exclusively. Also, santa and the easter bunny are christian inventions, read the bible.

    Wait, what.
    The intellectual journey that had began with Copernicus displacing humans from the centre of the Universe and continued with Darwin’s insistence that humans are merely modified monkeys has finally focused in on the very essence of life. And there was nothing special about it. The double helix is an elegant structure, but its message is downright prosaic: life is simply a matter of chemistry.
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    Re: Bill O'Reilly: Atheists Are Jealous Of The Holiday

    I don't know who's getting it wrong, O'Reilly or those people who make the ads.

    Christmas isn't exclusively for Christians. Look at Japan.

    We still celebrate harvest festival even though nobody prays to the ancient gods any more.

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    Re: Bill O'Reilly: Atheists Are Jealous Of The Holiday

    Quote Originally Posted by erikvv View Post
    We still celebrate harvest festival even though nobody prays to the ancient gods any more.
    I wouldn't say nobody. Certainly a sometimes entertaining minority but there are folks that claim to follow the old ways out there.

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    Re: Bill O'Reilly: Atheists Are Jealous Of The Holiday

    Quote Originally Posted by erikvv View Post
    I don't know who's getting it wrong, O'Reilly or those people who make the ads.

    Christmas isn't exclusively for Christians. Look at Japan.

    We still celebrate harvest festival even though nobody prays to the ancient gods any more.
    To answer the question of right and wrong here, the answers to some questions would need to be provided.

    First, do the people running those ads (humanists) have a right to run those ads?
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    Re: Bill O'Reilly: Atheists Are Jealous Of The Holiday

    Nobody has a "right" to run an ad...it has to be accepted by whoever is producing it.
    Aside from that...the reason is clear. It is both an attack on religion and a way to promote themselves.
    It isn't complicated.

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    Re: Bill O'Reilly: Atheists Are Jealous Of The Holiday

    Quote Originally Posted by iamwhatiseem View Post
    Nobody has a "right" to run an ad...it has to be accepted by whoever is producing it.
    Aside from that...the reason is clear. It is both an attack on religion and a way to promote themselves.
    It isn't complicated.
    Non sequitur
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    Re: Bill O'Reilly: Atheists Are Jealous Of The Holiday

    Quote Originally Posted by Steerpike View Post
    Non sequitur

    How is that have nothing to do with it?

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    Re: Bill O'Reilly: Atheists Are Jealous Of The Holiday

    Quote Originally Posted by iamwhatiseem View Post

    How is that have nothing to do with it?
    The humanist group produced the ad and "bought" the ad space from a party that did "sell it to them." Further, there is no reason why someone could not buy both the ad space and produce an ad to run in a space they buy themselves. If you buy a piece of land for a billboard and set up the billboard, then you can run what ads you like on your billboard. So your premise that no one has a right to run an ad is a non sequitur.

    As far as reasons go, this brings us to another question. Do the humanists have a right voice their views?
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    Re: Bill O'Reilly: Atheists Are Jealous Of The Holiday

    Quote Originally Posted by Steerpike View Post
    The humanist group produced the ad and "bought" the ad space from a party that did "sell it to them." Further, there is no reason why someone could not buy both the ad space and produce an ad to run in a space they buy themselves. If you buy a piece of land for a billboard and set up the billboard, then you can run what ads you like on your billboard. So your premise that no one has a right to run an ad is a non sequitur.

    As far as reasons go, this brings us to another question. Do the humanists have a right voice their views?
    You are over analyzing to the hilt.

    To answer your question...again no one has a "right" to have there ads ran. It is not written anywhere in the laws that private companies must run every ad offered.
    Your question should be "should humanist have their ads restricted".
    The answer to that is of course - no.
    Is the ad(s) in bad taste - of course they are. The intent is pretty clear.
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    Re: Bill O'Reilly: Atheists Are Jealous Of The Holiday

    That was why Woody Allen quit atheism, no holidays.

    Of course he once had a girl break off because she was an atheist and he was an agnostic.

    This is one of Billyboys's major things that made him famous. O'Reilly would be just his usual silly bastard self about this if not for the fact that he keeps it up, and slips in more and more snide anti-Semitism as time goes on. (now the Jews didn't just kill Christ, they want to off Santa too)

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    Re: Bill O'Reilly: Atheists Are Jealous Of The Holiday

    Quote Originally Posted by iamwhatiseem View Post
    You are over analyzing to the hilt.....

    According to you, perhaps. But then you are trying to defend a viewpoint which has been shown to be logically flawed.


    Quote Originally Posted by iamwhatiseem View Post
    ......Is the ad(s) in bad taste - of course they are. The intent is pretty clear.
    Your opinion that it is in "bad taste" is irrelevant.

    What, if anything, is objectively wrong with the intent?
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    Re: Bill O'Reilly: Atheists Are Jealous Of The Holiday

    Quote Originally Posted by Steerpike View Post
    According to you, perhaps. But then you are trying to defend a viewpoint which has been shown to be logically flawed.
    What view point specifically is flawed logically?

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    Re: Bill O'Reilly: Atheists Are Jealous Of The Holiday

    Quote Originally Posted by iamwhatiseem View Post
    What view point specifically is flawed logically?
    The one where the logical fallacy was pointed out. :rolleyes:
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    Re: Bill O'Reilly: Atheists Are Jealous Of The Holiday

    Quote Originally Posted by Steerpike View Post
    The one where the logical fallacy was pointed out. :rolleyes:
    According to your flawed thinking maybe...that or you are trying to be what your avatar is supposed to represent...and not doing a very good job at it.

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