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    Re: Censorship is terrible, no censorship in hollywood is worse!

    Quote Originally Posted by pramjockey View Post
    And, as far as the 50s go, I'm sure if you were a conformist white middle class straight man, it was great. But, for the other 70% of the population it wasn't such a great time in history.
    Ah, the 50's... when men wore hats in public, women kept their mouths shut, and blacks sat in the back of the bus.

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    Re: Censorship is terrible, no censorship in hollywood is worse!

    Well, two out of three wouldn't be bad.
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    Re: Censorship is terrible, no censorship in hollywood is worse!

    Quote Originally Posted by timj219 View Post
    John Wayne was a draft dodger. I get sick to my stomach every time I see him playing a tough guy or hear someone cite him as a good american.
    He was too young to serve during WW1 and too old for the draft during WW2. Considering that by the time I joined up the maximum enlistment age was 36 he may have even been too old to enlist in 41 at the age of 34. I'm not sure what the age restrictions were back then.
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    Re: Censorship is terrible, no censorship in hollywood is worse!

    Quote Originally Posted by Porras View Post
    He was too young to serve during WW1 and too old for the draft during WW2. Considering that by the time I joined up the maximum enlistment age was 36 he may have even been too old to enlist in 41 at the age of 34. I'm not sure what the age restrictions were back then.
    He was young enough to join and young enough to be drafted. He obtained two seperate deferments. One for family reasons and later one tomake movies in the "national interest". The whole super patriot act was just an act. And the idea which he promoted and and so many right wing nuts agree with - that dissent is unpatriotic - has to go down as one of the most unamerican ideas ever.
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    Re: Censorship is terrible, no censorship in hollywood is worse!

    Quote Originally Posted by Michael_Q View Post
    Writes Mike Bassett:

    NCIS, the nations #1 TV show goes P.C. run amok.

    Tuesday night’s “Christmas” episode of NCIS, starring and produced by Mark Harmon, was the most disgusting and P.C. episode I have ever seen on the series.

    The episode depicts a returned combat veteran Marine murdered while kneeling next to a tree on a Muslim prayer rug.

    The crux of the investigation, conducted with a background of the “Christmas” theme in progress, shows various members of Leroy Jethro Gibbs’s NCIS team preparing for various pre-Christmas events while investigating the murder of this Marine turned Muslim.

    The suspects are varied (yet inclusive), including:

    (1) The Marine’s father, a retired Marine colonel turned “Christian Pastor”.

    (2) A group of Marines in the victims former unit.

    (3) The Marine’s widow (a very prim and proper white, blonde Christian chick).

    (4) The Marine victim’s younger brother (a dashing white Christian guy attending a military prep school).

    Also in attendance in the episode is the victim’s Muslim Navy Chaplin, a dashing black officer, who spends the episode quoting the positives of Islam and the traumas of our fighting men who wish to convert to Islam after their tours of duty in the Middle East.

    The episode villainizes every suspect in the show as being outwardly hostile toward our victim’s conversion to Islam with the following results:

    His father, the now Christianized, retired Marine colonel pastor, who only wants to be referred to as “Reverend”, is found to have paid off some of the current Marines in the victims old unit, to taunt him into rejecting Islam because it is detrimental to the mission of the unit and disgraces his family members.

    The old unit buddies spend their time being paid off by Dad (the “Reverend”), and taunting our victim until he is forced to seek counsel from the Muslim chaplin, who, as I said before, spends the episode depicting the wonderful world of Islam.

    The widowed wife is depicted as a surly and uncooperative individual, who refuses to assist in the investigation because she has a funeral to conduct.

    The younger brother, Mr. Perfect, student at a prestigious military prep school, is in a quandary over who could have possibly killed his brother, the former perfect Marine, that is, before he shamed his family by becoming a Muslim.

    Meanwhile, the dapper Muslim Navy Chaplin becomes threatened when he receives a pasted cutout letter describing him as the next victim.

    It all boils down to this: Our victim was murdered by his prep school brother in an “honor killing” because he (the victim) was an embarrassment to this wonderful “Christian” family for accepting Islam, thus casting dishonor on his family.

    Merry Christmas from NCIS.

    As a Christian, a Vietnam Veteran, a retired law enforcement officer, and an American, I am totally repulsed by this further condemnation of my American way of life.

    This episode, aired in the Christmas season, is a slap in the face to every American, Christian, Marine, and military man in this country.

    It purposely depicted intolerance by the suspects (all of whom were white Christians or Marines) while propagandizing the wonderful tenets of Islam, which were being usurped by a bunch of disenchanted family members and Marines who were serving with the recently “converted” victim.

    Disgraceful is an understatement.
    What is your American way of life and how was it condemned?


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    Re: Censorship is terrible, no censorship in hollywood is worse!

    Quote Originally Posted by Michael_Q View Post
    You'll pardon my zealotry, but if Camp Pendleton announced that the First Marine Division was deploying to Hollywood on a search and destroy mission I think I'd be moved to call my recruiter to find out if I could get re-enlisted...especially if they were going to run a napalm / bunker buster diversionary attack on San Francisco at the same time. Hollywood is sickening and they're ruining one generation after another. Why the hell do you think these idiots are supporting this empty suit in Washington while he dismantles the Constitution? They're brainwashed. Hollywood has so much power and no control of any kind is exerted on them. It's outrageous. The guy that put this episode of NCIS together should have his trachea handed to him!
    Does your "American way of life" include dropping "napalm / bunker buster[s]" on American cities?


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    Re: Censorship is terrible, no censorship in hollywood is worse!

    Quote Originally Posted by Rude Boy View Post
    What is your American way of life and how was it condemned?
    He doesn't know.

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    Re: Censorship is terrible, no censorship in hollywood is worse!

    Quote Originally Posted by Cari View Post
    Wait wait, are some of you trying to imply that NCIS is nothing more than an evening soap opera?

    Next you'll try and convinve me The Tudors is not a historically accurate documentary of the life of King Henry VIII!! And that all the vampires on True Blood are really just actors!!
    Special guest star Osama bin Laden to be featured in next season's True Blood.



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    Re: Censorship is terrible, no censorship in hollywood is worse!

    Quote Originally Posted by Michael_Q View Post
    Well, I'm pleasantly surprised that this thread generated as many posts in agreement as it did.

    As far as islam and America, I believe islam is a religion of hatred and murder. Anyone who doesn't agree with them is marked for extermination. Their women are treated worse than I treat my dogs and their religion as a whole is on the march across the world.

    Don't give me this crap about the innocent ones. That's bull sh_t. I was raised Catholic as a kid though I don't believe in ANY religion now. I can tell you one thing. If I believed in Catholicism and filthy animals were travelling the world murdering innocent people in the name of Christ I, and millions of others would be clamoring for the arrest and prosecution of those giving our religion a bad name. But there is no such outcry from the rank and file muslim. That religion is on the move across the world and won't stop until it has smothered everyone who disagrees with them.

    These pigs in hollywood who portray Christians as the enemy and glorify islam while insulting and degrading the Marine Corps are clearly an example of too much freedom and no personal responsibility. And they are destroying minds with every stinking episode like this NCIS episode. Law and Order has gotten so disgusting with the liberal "in your face" political message I can't watch it even though I know they're going to put their stupid ideology in the story line.

    Sanity will never return to our country until Hollywood and the rest of the media are reigned in and returned to the era, like in the 40's where Hollywood supported their country instead of trying to destroy it. We hear about how outrageous and out of control Senator McCarthy was with his witch hunt for liberals and communists in the 50's. I'm beginning to wonder if he had a premonition.
    You need to get out more. Just because you haven't heard people condemning things, doesn't mean they haven't condemned them. Hell, I read the other day about some very influential Imams from Libya issuing declarations against al Queda and the "Qutb" sects saying that their tactics and disregard for innocent life is anti-Islamic.


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    Re: Censorship is terrible, no censorship in hollywood is worse!

    Quote Originally Posted by timj219 View Post
    I'm beginning to think you would be much happier living in Iran or North Korea. Obviously the freedoms enjoyed by Americans cause you pain.
    Boom, goes the dynamite!


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    Re: Censorship is terrible, no censorship in hollywood is worse!

    Quote Originally Posted by Michael_Q View Post
    Never the innocent ones but the scum that's destroying this country should be exposed and they should have their power taken away from them for abusing it. You wouldn't understand.
    You sound like one Josef Stalin. I, as a socialist, am quite offended. But, you have a right to say whatever you want, because unlike you, I don't believe in censorship or annhilating whatever city you live in just because you offended me.

    Looks like your argument pretty much rests on a foundation made of quicksand. Are you sure you thought this through before waxing all "patriotic." (note quotation marks)


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    Re: Censorship is terrible, no censorship in hollywood is worse!

    Quote Originally Posted by Rude Boy View Post
    Does your "American way of life" include dropping "napalm / bunker buster[s]" on American cities?
    Figuratively son...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rude Boy View Post
    You need to get out more. Just because you haven't heard people condemning things, doesn't mean they haven't condemned them. Hell, I read the other day about some very influential Imams from Libya issuing declarations against al Queda and the "Qutb" sects saying that their tactics and disregard for innocent life is anti-Islamic.
    You make my point. There are BILLIONS of muslims and you heard some little comment being made in terrorist Libya. The whole muslim world should be in an uproar if their religion was really being hijacked. But it isn't, it's doing exactly what it's book call for, exterminate and terrorize everyone who doesn't buy into their twisted crap.

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    Re: Censorship is terrible, no censorship in hollywood is worse!

    Quote Originally Posted by Michael_Q View Post
    You make my point. There are BILLIONS of muslims and you heard some little comment being made in terrorist Libya. The whole muslim world should be in an uproar if their religion was really being hijacked. But it isn't, it's doing exactly what it's book call for, exterminate and terrorize everyone who doesn't buy into their twisted crap.
    You mean the Bible?

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    Re: Censorship is terrible, no censorship in hollywood is worse!

    Quote Originally Posted by Rude Boy View Post
    You sound like one Josef Stalin. I, as a socialist, am quite offended.
    You get credit for one thing son. At least you're honest about your socialist beliefs. Now if you can just get your president to "come out of the closet".

    A question if you're in the mood. Do you think it's a good thing that this country provides for the right to belong to the Ku Klux Klan? Yea, it's a bit of a trick question as you probably see, but I'm curious as to your answer as a socialist.

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