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    Liberal Hitlers

    This is why secular "humanists," atheists and liberals want to eradicate all religious expression in public. They don't want any debate, they don't want any questioning of their dangerous beliefs.


    They want their voices to be the only voices heard.


    They want complete dominance. This they will deny in many ways, but their actions speak for themselves and clearly expose their motivations.


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    A SOBERING HISTORY LESSON: CHURCH AND STATE


    BY BRYAN FISCHER

    ... the left has made its major gains in eroding religious liberty in America through activist judges. What they have not been able to gain at the ballot box, or through the legislative process, or through their elected representatives, they have gained through out-of-control judges who legislate from the bench.

    These judges, taking a twisted, distorted and upside-down view of the First Amendment, have removed prayer, Bible reading and the Ten Commandments from public schools, and are rapidly stripping Americans of what remains of the first liberty the founders guaranteed to us in the Bill of Rights.

    To recognize judicial activism when it pertains to the First Amendment, we need to have a clear understanding of what it does and does not mean.

    Only Congress can violate the First Amendment


    Most of us are familiar with the wording of the First Amendment: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof."

    The most overlooked, ignored, forgotten, and yet most important word in this amendment, is the first one: "Congress."Congress shall make no law.

    The only entity the founders restrained in the First Amendment was the Congress of the United States. No entity or individual other than Congress is restrained.

    Do not miss the significance of this. It is constitutionally impossible for a governor, a state legislature, a mayor, a city council, a principal, a teacher or a student speaking at graduation to violate the First Amendment, for one simple reason: they're not Congress.

    Some will surely cite the Incorporation Doctrine, which is based on the plainly false theory that the 14th Amendment applies the restrictions of the First Amendment to the states. But the Incorporation Doctrine itself is clearly a pernicious and lethal exhibition of judicial activism, which nobody thought of until 1947 when it came to the repression of religious liberty.

    Somehow the use of the 14th Amendment to stifle religious expression at the state and local level had escaped the finest legal minds in America from 1868, when the 14th Amendment was enacted, until the Everson ruling of 1947, a span of 79 years.

    Now, the Constitution did not suddenly change in 1947; what changed was the willingness of hyperactive justices to start finding emanations and penumbras in the Constitution, fabricated out of whole cloth by their fevered judicial imagination.

    We know as a matter of historical record that the 14th Amendment does not incorporate the First Amendment against the states. We know this because in 1875, James Blaine, a senator from Maine, tried to push his Blaine Amendment through Congress.

    His proposed wording read, "No state shall make any law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof." Do not miss the implication of this. If the framers of the 14th Amendment had intended to incorporate the First Amendment against the states, there simply would have been no need - just seven years later - for the Blaine Amendment. Sen. Blaine simply would have been told, "Hey, didn't you get the memo? The 14th Amendment has already done this."

    In passing the 14th Amendment, Congress clearly had no intention of clamping down on religious freedom at the state or local level.

    Even more telling is this indisputable historical fact: Sen. Blaine's amendment did not make it through Congress. Congress rejected his effort to take the First Amendment and use it to squeeze the life out of religious freedom at the state and local level.


    Religion in the Constitution



    So if Congress alone can violate the First Amendment, how can it do that? The founders were clear: The only way Congress can violate the First Amendment is to "establish a religion."

    Now when the founders used the term "religion," they did not use it, as we often do, to refer to religion in general, let alone to mere public references to God, as the ACLU argues.

    No, what they meant by "religion" was one of the various sects of Christianity. At the time of the founding, 99.8% of the population were followers, to one degree or another, of the Christian faith. Almost all of the other 0.2% were followers of the Jewish faith. Virtually 100% of the Americans at the time of the founding were adherents of the Judeo-Christian tradition.

    The founders used "religion" in much the same way my friends and I did on the playground when I was young. We'd ask each other, "What religion are you?" by which we meant, "Are you Baptist or Lutheran or Methodist or Roman Catholic?"

    The term "establishment" also had a clear, precise, unambiguous and technical meaning at the time. To "establish" a "religion" meant to pick one Christian denomination, give it preference in law, and compel citizens to support it with their tax dollars.

    Our founders had seen in England the kind of religious tyranny and repression that results from an established church and were determined not to repeat that mistake in the our young nation.


    So only Congress can violate the First Amendment, and the only way it can do that is to select one Christian denomination, make it the official church of the United States, and compel citizens to support it with their tax dollars.

    Don't miss this: if Congress doesn't do that, it can do anything it wants. It has complete constitutional liberty to engage in any kind of religious expression it chooses as long as it does not establish an official church.


    Religious liberty in the U.S.



    Now, why is all this important? Why is it so important for us to fight to protect genuine religious liberty in America?

    Here are two official slogans [cited in The Nazi Persecution of the Churches, 1933-1945, by John S. Conway]:

    1) "Politics do not belong in the church" and 2) "The church must be separate from the state."

    These mottos did not come from the ACLU, nor from Americans United for the Separation of Church and State. No, these slogans, word for word, came directly from the mind of Adolf Hitler.

    These were official slogans of the Nazi Party, adopted in the mid-1930s and relentlessly hammered into the minds of the compliant German population by the Nazi propaganda machine.

    In essence, what Hitler said to German pastors was this: "I don't care what you teach your congregations, as long as you don't talk about politics, and as long as you keep your voice inside the four walls of your churches."

    Why did Hitler do this? For one simple reason. He knew that the only force in Germany which could keep him from fulfilling his totalitarian ambitions was the church of Jesus Christ. He knew that if he could not silence the voice of the church, he could not exercise total domination.

    He also knew that if he could silence the voice of the church, nothing could stand in his way.


    The church and its leaders meekly capitulated to this form of tyranny, and 25 million people died as a result, 6 million of them Jews.

    Secular fundamentalists in the United States know the same thing that Hitler knew. The only thing that stands in their way of the total takeover of our culture, the final removal of any mention of God from the public arena, and the shredding of the last remains of our Judeo-Christian value system, is the church of Jesus Christ.


    Public square only for the left?



    I once had a lesbian activist say these exact words to me when I was pastoring: "I don't care what you teach or believe as long as you keep it inside the four walls of your church." In essence, she was saying, "Your church belongs to you, but the public square belongs to us."

    They know that if they cannot silence the voice of the church, they cannot succeed. And they also know that if they can silence and neutralize the voice of the church, nothing stands in their way.

    I submit that the future of our country, as well as the future we leave to our children and grandchildren, hinges on this one question and this one question alone: Will the church allow its voice to be intimidated into silence, or will our spiritual leaders once again take their prophetic role in our society and speak truth outside the four walls of the church?

    Will the leaders of the church once again speak the unchanging and unchangeable truths of God and his Word into the public square? Will our pulpits once again flame with righteousness, or will the church allow its voice to be overpowered by the strident voices of the left?



    January 2010 AFA JOURNAL pg. 13

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    http://www.onenewsnow.com/Journal/ed...aspx?id=849894

    From the silver tongue of satan we're told that bondage is freedom, hate is love and intolerance is tolerance. Murder is offered as a right or a "choice." We accept these destructive lies at our own peril.
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    Re: Liberal Hitlers

    lol, i haven't read this yet but from the title i can already tell this is going to be a great thread
    "My country is the world, and my religion is to do good." --Thomas Paine

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    oh i think i get it, it's a semantic excuse to allow local governments to restrict freedom of religion?
    "My country is the world, and my religion is to do good." --Thomas Paine

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    Funny - I've not met a single liberal who wants to prevent people from celebrating their religion.


    However, forcing your religious texts onto the walls of buildings owned by the PEOPLE of the US is not preventing you from worshipping. Neither is preventing the forced reading of your religious texts by all students in taxpayer funded schools. Nor is preventing students from being forced to "pray" or to be ostracized by their peers for the discomfort of not praying during school time paid for by taxpayers.

    In fact, you have yet to demonstrate in any way whatsoever how your right to practice your religion is actually being harmed or threatened.

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    I wonder how many times the word "I" appears in that copy and paste.

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    Lemme go get my rainbow swastika.
    First they came for the mimes, and I did not speak out, because I was a mime.

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    Re: Liberal Hitlers

    here's an example of liberal indoctrination..........my step daughter married a guy who's mother is a lez. Lez momma eventually convinced stepdaughter that people who don't accept G&L (as normal) are not good people. keep in mind that her son still talks about when he was 14 yrs old, he came home and found his mother going down on her girlfriend and how it fucked his head up. maybe he was a bad person too......for not accepting that as normal Mom stuff.............

    The whole liberal thing is a lie from the word liberal. Liberals arent liberal. And that is their MO.........attack and slander all who disagree with them. Me? I could give a shit if someone wants to be gay. I do give a shit if some gay says if I don't accept it as normaal I am a bad person. And it goes beyond that........... the examples are endless....liberals will tell you how wrong it is to hunt, kill, and eat an animal, yet the cow they had last night didn't commit suicide. Its OK when the animal has a hole punched thru it's skull with a pneumatic device, but a bullet? You are evil Mr. Hunter man.

    What a fucking lie!


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    lol @ liberals aren't liberal

    if someone isn't liberal, then they aren't a liberal...
    "My country is the world, and my religion is to do good." --Thomas Paine

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    You know, I've been googling, and I can't find a passage anywhere that indicates that not slapping the 10 Commandments up in public buildings is some sort of affront to worship. Can someone point out those passages, please?

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    I was very happy when no call legislation was passed. Now telemarketers may feel this interferes with their free speech. You are free to teach your children any rubbish you want, but my kids shouldn't have to listen to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chassisman View Post
    here's an example of liberal indoctrination..........my step daughter married a guy who's mother is a lez. Lez momma eventually convinced stepdaughter that people who don't accept G&L (as normal) are not good people. keep in mind that her son still talks about when he was 14 yrs old, he came home and found his mother going down on her girlfriend and how it fucked his head up. maybe he was a bad person too......for not accepting that as normal Mom stuff.............
    Show me one kid who wasn't completely grossed out when they caught their parents doing it, and I'll show you a psychopath. And that's just run of the mill intercourse, not your mom doing dirty things with her mouth.

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    We all know this topic is nonsense, but breezing over it I found this little jewel (I know noone really reads this OP, nor should you).


    1) "Politics do not belong in the church" and 2) "The church must be separate from the state."

    These mottos did not come from the ACLU, nor from Americans United for the Separation of Church and State. No, these slogans, word for word, came directly from the mind of Adolf Hitler.



    Now this is just beautifull. Blind stupidity, combined with a large dose of propaganda, at it's finest. No discussion is complete without a Hitler reference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cari View Post
    Show me one kid who wasn't completely grossed out when they caught their parents doing it, and I'll show you a psychopath. And that's just run of the mill intercourse, not your mom doing dirty things with her mouth.
    You know, I'd think that Mom with her face buried in another woman's crotch is probably less shocking than seeing a penis penetrating mom.

    I've not seen either, thank (insert deity of choice)

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    Quote Originally Posted by pramjockey View Post
    You know, I'd think that Mom with her face buried in another woman's crotch is probably less shocking than seeing a penis penetrating mom.

    I've not seen either, thank (insert deity of choice)
    Well, when I walked in my parents it just kind of looked like my father was trying to squash my mom, I didn't look long enough to catch the finer details like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cari View Post
    Show me one kid who wasn't completely grossed out when they caught their parents doing it, and I'll show you a psychopath. And that's just run of the mill intercourse, not your mom doing dirty things with her mouth.
    I got lucky, my parents only had sex 3 times (I have a brother and a sister).

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