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It seems to me that the writer has it about right. The media feeds the population these alarming and dishonest stories only to make $$.
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Climate Alarmism Takes Off in a New Direction
NASA has just voiced its concern over the threat that our modern technological society is now facing from "solar storms."
Now it's true of course, that our society has become quite dependent on new technology, such as satellite communications and GPS mapping, that is vulnerable to the effects of major solar storms, but NASA seems to be a bit too worried about how big the threat really is. Fortunately for us, legitimate climate scientists believe the next solar "maximum," which is due in four to five years, is not expected to be anything unusual. In any event, while major solar storms could screw things up pretty well for a while, they're not potentially fatal to mankind, as the AGW alarmists claim that global warming is.
According to my friend Dr. Ed Berry of climatephysics.com, there's a good reason why NASA is making a big deal out of it. It's called "Grantsmanship." If they can convince Congress that this is a serious threat, which they're obviously best-positioned to research and plan for, then there's a chance that they can get Congress to increase their funding. There's a good deal of exaggeration here, of course, as the "super maximum solar flare" that they're talking about, while possible, is no more likely to occur within the next few years than a hundred-year flood.
But it is possible, of course. So it doesn't seem at all unreasonable for them to want more funding so that they can enhance their forecasting capabilities, which have already come a long way, thanks to our existing satellites.
There's another aspect to this story, however, that might be more interesting for us to consider right now, as it may help us to understand how the global warming hoax arose. While NASA is talking about the issue, they're doing so in a relatively calm and reasonable manner. We can see this from the title of their latest release on the subject:
NASA: "As the Sun Awakens, NASA Keeps a Wary Eye on Space Weather"
Within 48 hours, however, as the media began to report on the story, it quickly began to morph into another pending apocalypse:
Washington Post: "Do Solar Storms Threaten Life as We Know It?"
Gawker.com: "The Newest Threat to All Human Life on Earth: Solar Storms"
It seems that Fox News isn't quite as over-the-top.
Fox News: "Solar Storms Could Be Threat in 2013"
Why does the media do this?
The simple (historical) answer, of course, is that catastrophes sell newspapers. William Randolph Hearst may have given formal birth to "yellow journalism," but he wasn't its only practitioner. I wrote about this back in January in my article "159 Years of Climate Alarmism at The New York Times."
In the last part of the 19th century, newspapers like The Times were warning us of an imminent new ice age. By 1940, they were worried about excessive warming; however, after the next 35 years of cooling, they were quick to transition to hysteria over another approaching ice age. By the late 1970s, after the earth began warming again, people like Maurice Strong, along with some other blossoming environmental extremists, politicians, and U.N. officials, began to see the huge potential for power and wealth that was built into the issue. This, along with the added fantasy of AGW, brought us to the brink of Cap & Trade and the fraudulent EPA classification of CO2 as a pollutant.
Of course, the warming stopped in 2002, and we've been cooling steadily since then. Now, as the AGW house of cards begins to crumble, we're already hearing rumblings about another ice age. It could happen, and if it does, we should be worried this time, because while warming was never any kind of threat at all, extreme cooling is. People starve when crops don't grow very well.
The obvious question is: "If they've been wrong each and every time in the past, why on earth would anyone still be listening to them today?"
H.L. Mencken answered it best when he said, "The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary."
The public has a short memory, to be sure, obviously but rather than blaming the politicians alone for the current AGW hoax, we should be aware of the media's complicity in this sordid affair. They're still not reporting the news honestly. Like Hearst, they're still making it up as they go. Just to sell "newspapers."
The fact of the matter is, is that without good judgement the media is able to manipulate the people and sell them fake goods while separating them from some of their $$
We need to remember that these are businesses FIRST. BIG businesses.
Unfortunately, we can have no effect on THEM unless and until WE wise up and stop buying the cheap lies and alarmism they're selling us.
American Thinker: Climate Alarmism Takes Off in a New Direction
President
The media always makes money, regardless. That is their purpose. However, look at the science and you will see that their is actual cause to be alarmed.
If you want to see where the real dough is, it is in industry funded climate denialism. The fossil fuel industry (like the tobacco industry before it) has literally sunk millions of dollars into climate science denialism and the pretend scientists who spew their message.
Andrew
...corporations and those who run them cannot stop exploiting resources and amassing wealth until they have... .I cannot finish this sentence, because the truth is that can never stop; like cancer, they can only continue to expand until they kill the host.
-- Derrick Jensen
County Executive
And the millions of dollars of grants to "study" climate change or the television publicity or all the carbon credit mumbo jumbo etc aren't massive money makers? Please. There is a ton of money to be had in propagating the myth of AGM.Originally Posted by Andrewl
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, ... That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men,"
-Declaration of Independence
Two truths that many Americans seem to have forgotten:
1. Men are endowed by God with inalienable rights.
2. Government's purpose is to secure man's God-given rights.
President
Millions of dollars spread out over thousands of employees in dozens of countries and multiple universities. This amounts to a pretty meager salary. In fact, there is no joy or benefit in being a climate scientist at all. They are constantly attacked by illiterate anti-science morons and their research is constantly and deliberately misrepresented by paid deniers who are making way more money than a scientist in this field ever will.
Money from carbon credits does not go to scientists.
Again, investigate the science (the actual science, not journalism) and and you will see that there is actual cause for alarm.
Andrew
...corporations and those who run them cannot stop exploiting resources and amassing wealth until they have... .I cannot finish this sentence, because the truth is that can never stop; like cancer, they can only continue to expand until they kill the host.
-- Derrick Jensen
County Executive
This shows how ignorant you are of universities. I worked for a university in their IT department for 3 years. Most professors make at least 6 figures and are protected by tenure. Furthermore, anyone who gets the government to give the university a grant are usually given some kind of perk for their troubles.
Oh boo hoo. Those poor scientists actually have to back up their claims with real scientific data. Poor souls. :rolleyes:
I can't speak about all scientists but I can tell you that university professors sure aren't hurting any.
I have and frankly the arguments against man made climate change are much more logical than those for it.
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, ... That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men,"
-Declaration of Independence
Two truths that many Americans seem to have forgotten:
1. Men are endowed by God with inalienable rights.
2. Government's purpose is to secure man's God-given rights.
President
LOL, the vast majority of professors and researchers in climate science do not make anywhere close to six figures. (maybe in medicine or engineering, but absolutely not in climate science). I have made more money waiting tables than some climate science researchers.
Which they do. In fact its certainly at this point one of the most transparent fields of research that there is. Not surprisingly since they are constantly being attacked by paid deniers.Oh boo hoo. Those poor scientists actually have to back up their claims with real scientific data. Poor souls. :rolleyes:
Neither are grocery store clerks. What is your point?I can't speak about all scientists but I can tell you that university professors sure aren't hurting any.
No you haven't. (or if you have you did not understand any of it). Nobody who has actually investigated the science and understood it could possibly say something as ignorant as you just said.I have and frankly the arguments against man made climate change are much more logical than those for it.
Andrew
...corporations and those who run them cannot stop exploiting resources and amassing wealth until they have... .I cannot finish this sentence, because the truth is that can never stop; like cancer, they can only continue to expand until they kill the host.
-- Derrick Jensen
County Executive
That isn't what my experience showed me.
Paid deniers? You mean to tell me that I can get paid to publish the truth about AGW being a crock?! I'm getting ripped off here because I'm doing this pro bono.
And its one of the most transparent fields? You are aware of the climate gate emails correct? Or do you mean that it is one of the most transparent fields now that those emails have been released to the world?
Are you serious? Ok, I'll make simple so you can understand it. My experience is that professors (including those that study global climate change) are making more money than you give them credit.
So I only understand science if I agree with you?
I have an idea. If I am so undereducated then why don't you enlighten me? Show me that man is causing climate change and that it is as alarming as you say.
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, ... That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men,"
-Declaration of Independence
Two truths that many Americans seem to have forgotten:
1. Men are endowed by God with inalienable rights.
2. Government's purpose is to secure man's God-given rights.
President
He-e-e-e-errrres Andrewl !!!!
Still carrying on about the fraud of global warming even though it's been proven to be a fraud
Look at the science for the proof - that it's a fraud.
If you're into that "science thing" at all of course.
Joint Chiefs of Staff Member
The media makes it's money on advertising.
Therefore, the sensational stories or commentary make them the most money. Anna Nicole Smith, Michael Jackson, and O.J. Simpson made much more money for TV networks than Climate Change ever will.
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The world could use more Stan Ovshinsky's
President
I've asked you before for evidence of this and you sent me to a tabloid web page trying to sell me the info (as well as 9/11 conspiracy stuff).... Do you have anything credible for me or not?
Andrew
...corporations and those who run them cannot stop exploiting resources and amassing wealth until they have... .I cannot finish this sentence, because the truth is that can never stop; like cancer, they can only continue to expand until they kill the host.
-- Derrick Jensen
President
I don't beleive you have any experience with climate change researchers.
Well, they usually pay smarter people than you. But yeah, maybe if you tried harder you could be a professional liar as well.
Paid deniers? You mean to tell me that I can get paid to publish the truth about AGW being a crock?! I'm getting ripped off here because I'm doing this pro bono.
The emails were investigated by two separate independent bodies and it was determined that they did not show any scientific malpractice and nor did it undermine in any way whatsoever the evidence that anthropogenic CO2 emissions are the primary cause of warming over the last 4 decades.And its one of the most transparent fields? You are aware of the climate gate emails correct? Or do you mean that it is one of the most transparent fields now that those emails have been released to the world?
The only thing the emails showed was the lenghts that deniers will go towards slandering actual scientists.
Well, its just not true, I know this from personal experience. There are no rich climate scientists anywhere on the planet.Are you serious? Ok, I'll make simple so you can understand it. My experience is that professors (including those that study global climate change) are making more money than you give them credit.
No. If you understood the science in contrast to the recycled and repeatedly debunked garbage that deniers spew you would not be able to write what you did. You ignorance is glaringly obvious.So I only understand science if I agree with you?
Sure. Where do you want to start?I have an idea. If I am so undereducated then why don't you enlighten me? Show me that man is causing climate change and that it is as alarming as you say.
Andrew
...corporations and those who run them cannot stop exploiting resources and amassing wealth until they have... .I cannot finish this sentence, because the truth is that can never stop; like cancer, they can only continue to expand until they kill the host.
-- Derrick Jensen
President
Yes, there is the "dumb star doing stuff you really don't care about but have a morbit curiousity about" angle that keeps people handing $$ over.
But the alarmism (of all kinds) definitely plays a part in it too. Helps the media sell stuff and helps the politicians sell ideas.
Now that Al Gores foolish ideas are being shown for what they are, we might be seeing the next "big thing to worry about" as being "sunstorms wreaking havoc" in our technological age. Like the years 1999 going to 2000 were supposed to "cause havoc" with our computers, like "the coming ice age" was supposed to "cause havoc," then it was "global warming," now its Fox News: "Solar Storms Could Be Threat in 2013." I can see that it will eventually come around again to a coming ice age ... again and then we'll probably do it all again with variations of course. Another H1M1 (or was it N ?) 1 flu (non) pandemic to freak people out with .... always something.
President
Yes, but where is the incentive for the thousands of scientists all over the world coming to this conclusion over the last 100 years?
Andrew
...corporations and those who run them cannot stop exploiting resources and amassing wealth until they have... .I cannot finish this sentence, because the truth is that can never stop; like cancer, they can only continue to expand until they kill the host.
-- Derrick Jensen
President
I've played this foolish game with you enough
It doesn't matter how credible the source is to you.
If the scientists don't say what you think they should be saying, these are the kind of statements you leave us with; "you sent me to a tabloid web page trying to sell me the info (as well as 9/11 conspiracy stuff).... Do you have anything credible for me or not?"
Because dismissing the growing findings and facts against it is now your only option since you've railed endlessly about this fraud called "global warming" for so long.
Believe what you will, but truthfully, the science simply does not support man caused "global warming."
Yeah, sure. Some do believe as you do it's true.
That's believe.
Secretary of Defense
What ever made us think that there were no dangers of living on this planet? Bad things have happened before, and it's just a matter of time before another bad thang happens, take your pick on which bad thingy it is that u want to freat over.
to live is to suffer-Fritz lang
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