Thread: Disband the NFLPA, aye!

Originally Posted by MeadHallPirate

ahoy me buckos!

mateys, when we think 'o folks like Dan Marino, Joe Montana, Roger Staubach, Brett Favre, Phil Simms, Tom Brady and the like....i know yer thinkin' 'o one phrase in particular;

Commie Pinko Agitators!!!

with that bein' said, imma sure each 'o ye shall line up in favor 'o disbandin' the National Football League Players Association. i mean heck, if teachers be overpaid, imma sure we'd all agree that grown men who be paid generously to play football also be a bit overpaid.

im sure each of ye shall enjoy yer autumn sundays without football, fer 'tis a small price to pay to push back against these evil and vile unions.

i say just fire Ben Rothlisberger, since he clearly be nothin' but a marxist in shoulderpads.

i look forward to the torrent 'o union bashin' to be redirected to the NFL.

on March 3rd, them titans 'o socialism (im now talkin' about the owners, who should wear a hammer and sickle pin on thar lapels, what with thar vile profit sharin' 'o TV revenues and salary caps) shall take on that den 'o Leninists, the NFL players union.

lets all do our share, as citizens, to make sure that the owners fire the arses 'o all them commie football players.

YARRRRRR!

- MeadHallPirate

NHP. If you published that to the right audience, you would be covered up in women!

Being well paid and being overpaid are two different things but I wonder if Bill Maher and liberals are regretting their praise of the NFL and their comparisons to socialism. I thought praise and favorable comparisons for the league notorious for leaving former plays old and broken down while it locks out its current players was right on the mark ... for Bill.

Your comparison is off the mark too, MHP.

If the NFL goes on strike they'll pay a significant price...at least temporarily. When the MLB players struck in 1994 it was roughly 5 years before they got back on a solid footing. Unfortunately they don't seem to have learned their lessons and we're due for another fiasco as wildly inflated salaries have sent ticket prices into the stratosphere. When decent seats for a fucking Diamondbacks game are over $100 a whack (if you can get them without going through a broker) it's pure insanity.

In 1998 I paid $26 at the gate for dugout seats. Today those same seats are $110 for a game against some crap team like Milwaukee. There are $8 seats available but you need to bring 40x binoc's and your own provisions if you're going to sit up there because even the beer guys won't climb that many stairs to sell you an $8 Bud Light.

Originally Posted by Donahue

Being well paid and being overpaid are two different things but I wonder if Bill Maher and liberals are regretting their praise of the NFL and their comparisons to socialism. I thought praise and favorable comparisons for the league notorious for leaving former plays old and broken down while it locks out its current players was right on the mark ... for Bill.

Your comparison is off the mark too, MHP.

*scratches his noggin'*

ahoy Donahue,

imma confused. i thought unions were destroyin' our country.

are ye sayin' that if the membership is makin' millions and millions per person, then the unions are good unions? are ye sayin' that teachers be overpaid and slothful, and them poor workin' stiffs in the NFL be underpaid slaves?

i do not follow the musings 'o Bill Maher. i do not get the HBO on me television.

- MeadHallPirate

Originally Posted by MeadHallPirate

*scratches his noggin'*

ahoy Donahue,

imma confused. i thought unions were destroyin' our country.

are ye sayin' that if the membership is makin' millions and millions per person, then the unions are good unions? are ye sayin' that teachers be overpaid and slothful, and them poor workin' stiffs in the NFL be underpaid slaves?

i do not follow the musings 'o Bill Maher. i do not get the HBO on me television.

- MeadHallPirate

You're comparing apples to firetrucks, MHP.

First of all, your ideas on being paid well and being overpaid are wrong. People don't feel public employees are over compensated because they've crossed some arbitrary threshold where you're suddenly being compensated a lot. People feel public employees are over compensated because their contracts are not based on supply v. demand and are kept artificially high, especially compared to what private sector employees in similar fields are making.

I think the union's response in Ohio & Wisconsin speaks VOLUMES over how overpaid union employees are.

Second, you're comparing a private sector union to a public sector union when it's altogether different. As far as I'm concerned a private business is free to do whatever it wants within the confines of the law and I'm free to patronage that business if I want to. I don't have the CHOICE when it comes to the public sector.

Third, NFL athletes don't negotiate their salaries through collective bargaining. While the CBA covers things like league minimum, what Tom Brady makes is completely dependent on the market. The reality is there is only a handful of people on the planet who can do what he does.

What do they need a union for?

Originally Posted by Donahue

You're comparing apples to firetrucks, MHP.

First of all, your ideas on being paid well and being overpaid are wrong. People don't feel public employees are over compensated because they've crossed some arbitrary threshold where you're suddenly being compensated a lot. People feel public employees are over compensated because their contracts are not based on supply v. demand and are kept artificially high, especially compared to what private sector employees in similar fields are making.

Second of all, you're comparing a private sector union to a public sector union when it's altogether different. As far as I'm concerned a private business is free to do whatever it wants within the confines of the law and I'm free to patronage that business if I want to. I don't have the CHOICE when it comes to the public sector.

aye Donahue,

so then, private unions are okies dokies, but if yer a government employee, then collective bargainin' be bad, aye?

- MeadHallPirate

Originally Posted by MeadHallPirate

aye Donahue,

so then, private unions are okies dokies, but if yer a government employee, then collective bargainin' be bad, aye?

- MeadHallPirate

Well, that's not exactly what I meant to say.

I don't think it's a matter of being good or bad when it comes to the private sector as much as it's simply not my business. It's Ford and GM's business if they want to allow unions and how they want to negotiate with them. Ford and GM negotiate on the basis of making a profit which limits their room for negotiations.

There's an inherent conflict of interest when public unions negotiate with politicians, who need their support to win elections but don't actually have any real limits when it comes to negotiating. Let's cut through the bullshit, shall we? Democrat politicians aren't coming out of the woodwork to defend unions and criticize Gov. Walker because they actually give a damn about those union workers. They give a damn about those union votes and those union donations. That is a conflict of interest.

Originally Posted by MeadHallPirate

ahoy me buckos!

mateys, when we think 'o folks like Dan Marino, Joe Montana, Roger Staubach, Brett Favre, Phil Simms, Tom Brady and the like....i know yer thinkin' 'o one phrase in particular;

Commie Pinko Agitators!!!

with that bein' said, imma sure each 'o ye shall line up in favor 'o disbandin' the National Football League Players Association. i mean heck, if teachers be overpaid, imma sure we'd all agree that grown men who be paid generously to play football also be a bit overpaid.

im sure each of ye shall enjoy yer autumn sundays without football, fer 'tis a small price to pay to push back against these evil and vile unions.

i say just fire Ben Rothlisberger, since he clearly be nothin' but a marxist in shoulderpads.

i look forward to the torrent 'o union bashin' to be redirected to the NFL.

on March 3rd, them titans 'o socialism (im now talkin' about the owners, who should wear a hammer and sickle pin on thar lapels, what with thar vile profit sharin' 'o TV revenues and salary caps) shall take on that den 'o Leninists, the NFL players union.

lets all do our share, as citizens, to make sure that the owners fire the arses 'o all them commie football players.

even now, as i contemplate the NFL player's union, i get furious and all i can think about be Chris Dodd and Acorn and Marx and Obamacare and Islamofacism and Nancy Pelosi and Saul Alinksy and i get very, very upset!!!!

*makes an angry face*

YARRRRRR!

- MeadHallPirate

Well played, good sir.

I'm enjoying watching the few that have the guts to actually respond scramble to cover up their hypocrisy.

I believe you also forgot all the taxpayer subsidies of their playing fields - are they not really public employees in so many ways?

Oh, and the unions do negotiate salaries - while the big names do negotiate for themselves, there is a league minimum that is negotiated by the union.

Originally Posted by Donahue

Well, that's not exactly what I meant to say.

I don't think it's a matter of being good or bad when it comes to the private sector as much as it's simply not my business. It's Ford and GM's business if they want to allow unions and how they want to negotiate with them. Ford and GM negotiate on the basis of making a profit which limits their room for negotiations.

There's an inherent conflict of interest when public unions negotiate with politicians, who need their support to win elections but don't actually have any real limits when it comes to negotiating. Let's cut through the bullshit, shall we? Democrat politicians aren't coming out of the woodwork to defend unions and criticize Gov. Walker because they actually give a damn about those union workers. They give a damn about those union votes and those union donations. That is a conflict of interest.

Why should the corporation have all the say, and the employee have none? Should not the employee have some right to bargain? What makes an entity, which exists only at the whim of the People to begin with, so special that its desires overpower that of the People themselves?

Oh, and you do understand that the public sector unions don't actually negotiate with elected officials, right?

Originally Posted by Donahue

Let's cut through the bullshit, shall we? Democrat politicians aren't coming out of the woodwork to defend unions and criticize Gov. Walker because they actually give a damn about those union workers. They give a damn about those union votes and those union donations. That is a conflict of interest.

ahoy Donahue (and well met!),

i think i understand what yer sayin' here. when democratic politicians recieve all them campaign donations from teacher's unions, they be incapable 'o performin' thar duties fairly because thar be a conflict 'o interest....

yet when folks from Exxon Mobil or various defense contractors dump millions into GOP campaign coffers, conservative congressmen have special powers that allow them to act much as the blindfolded lady 'o justice that sits on the courthouse steps.

i thank ye fer settin' me straight, matey.

i didn't know these facts.

one thing, at any rate, be clear to me. Union bashin' is not as much fun when we're talkin' about football players. why this is, i have no idear. perhaps its because thick necked mateys in jockstraps who are pumped full 'o steriods are so critically crucial to the advancement 'o our nation, and teachers are just parasitic moochers who do nothin' but leech offa the taxpayer and be primarily responsible fer torpedoing state budgets across our land.

*salutes*

- MeadHallPirate

Originally Posted by pramjockey

I believe you also forgot all the taxpayer subsidies of their playing fields - are they not really public employees in so many ways?

*bonks Pramjockey on the noggin'*

yarrr Pramjockey!

when local tax dollars go to build a multi million dollar sports complex fer millionaire owners 'o NFL teams, thats GOOD SOCIALISM.

when local tax dollars go to pay the salary 'o them lazy, take-the-summer-off, startin' teachers salaries in Wisconsin (24k, wheeee!), thats BAD SOCIALISM.

*cheers*

- MeadHallPirate

MHF,

It takes a special kind of low life to insinuate someone supports raping women because they support the free market.

Any self respecting wannabe pirate would take a long walk off a short plank after your statements but self respect has obviously passed you buy.

*cheers* you piece of shit.