Re: The Koran is a Hate Filled Holy Book
Originally Posted by fishjoel
At the risk of going off topic here but also looking to your challenge limited to only the New Testament, or Christian Scriptures, then I am left to only use text, which is of course subject to interpretation, that may have hate (perhaps calls for violence or at least division of humanity of believers and non-believers) implications. In my view that is then subject to the interpretation of division of society leading to eventual war. So I guess, here is my response.
Originally Posted by fishjoel
It was later interpreted that all Jews past, present, and future are equally responsible for the death of Jesus. Now granted that was an extreme interpretation of "When Pilate saw that he was getting nowhere, but that instead an uproar was starting, he took water and washed his hands in front of the crowd. “I am innocent of this man’s blood,” he said. “It is your responsibility!” All the people answered, “His blood is on us and on our children!”" It was Matthew's recording of a statement by a crowd of Jews that continued damn for those in witness to Jesus' death would be passed down. Some interpreted that as the one text that was most responsible for anti-semitic view and a real catalyst for being anti-Judaism. Until recent times, and regardless of your interpretation, this was taught in Christianity. To those taught under conservative Christianity, it is still mentioned with respect to whom (in this interpretation, all Jews) are responsible for Jesus' death. What does that really mean? To me it means division of humanity based on religion and a possible (again based on interpretation and message) of hate for another religious group. It also means that according to some (perhaps labeled extremism) anyone following Judaism is responsible for Jesus' death. A potential fuel for hatred.
Here, similar to the above, we speak of whom has rejected the teachings of Jesus and thus a hint of calling them all sons of Satan. "You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies." John is speaking here to the Jewish faith and in interpretation calling them the sons of evil. Not sure how you would interpret this but that does not mean others may not equate this the way you do. In my own view calling an entire other religion the following of Satan can be interpreted as damning, or hate, text.
Similar to John 8:44, this is a script for equating Jews to followers of Satan. "These are the words of him who is the First and the Last, who died and came to life again. I know your afflictions and your poverty—yet you are rich! I know about the slander of those who say they are Jews and are not, but are a synagogue of Satan. Do not be afraid of what you are about to suffer. I tell you, the devil will put some of you in prison to test you, and you will suffer persecution for ten days. Be faithful, even to the point of death, and I will give you life as your victor’s crown." This is one of many damning texts in Revelations about the nature of handling and the effect of non-believers. Here specifically and again we have possible interpretations of hatred for Jews.
Now in all of this what I do not see of course is calls for violence and real action against "non-believers" but again all of this is subject to interpretation and regardless of your interpretation personally others may look at this as a catalyst to hate enough to then provoke action. Which leads to me to statements like I have always made that in the right hands, any religion, can be used as a weapon. All it takes is a sort of belief and interpretation of text to promote going to the next level of action against the opposition. Now, the Quran may be more forward about calls for action. The Hebrew Scriptures, or Old Testament, may be also filled with interpretable calls for action. But it is void of logic to conclude that Christianity is absent of calls for division or humanity and social order. All of those things (historically speaking, based on interpretation, and right or wrong) have been used as reason for hate and war. Potential hate text is there in Christianity, and it is not hard to find.
- Frustrated Independent
"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin
"Every time something really bad happens, people cry out for safety, and the government answers by taking rights away from good people. - Penn Jillette amazingly enough, and I agree.