Thread: George Soros And The Media

Originally Posted by MeadHallPirate

ahoy Tsquare,

again matey, i don't really care 'bout who funds or pays fer the news...i don't care who contributes to boards, neither, never have. whether it be the Koch Brothers or George Soros who be writin' the checks doesn't hold alot 'o interest fer me.

what i care 'bout be the end product...be the news produced well investigated, truthful and informative?

even the article ye cited in yer OP confirms that the Pulitzer Prize winnin' journalists at ProRepublica do excellent work.

aye.

- MeadHallPirate

MHP, you are the product, not the news. The news agency collects viewers and sells them to the advertisers.

Originally Posted by goober

So you are saying that when you watch FOX, you are seeing what the Saudi Royal Family want you to see, gotcha...
Because the Saudi Royal Family has put more money into FOX, than Soros has put into NPR.

I don't watch FOX or any other cable news but, yes, whoever gives a large amount of money to FOX has an influence on the news that we see. I don't understand what makes you think I was only referring to liberal media outlets.

Originally Posted by hairballxavier

FYI, the hugest media conglomerate in the USA is owned by GE.

Rupert Murdock isn't even close.


Many brainwashed idiots watch GE's MSNBC network and often cite it here as if they have no clue that it is nothing but GE's corporate propaganda.

Quoted for truth.

Originally Posted by fishjoel

MHP, you are the product, not the news. The news agency collects viewers and sells them to the advertisers.

ahoy Fishjoel,

i don't deny it, mate...i was a journalism major fer a number 'o years and was a stringer fer the Star Ledger, Courier News and the NYT in me youth, i know how it all works. i don't mind that news organizations try to produce the right product to collect revenue...not everyone can be NPR, and afterall, i be a businessman meself! YarrRRR!!!!

all i care is that the news be well crafted and well investigated, provides context and makes the world more understandable fer this pirate.

- MeadHallPirate

Originally Posted by MeadHallPirate

ahoy Fishjoel,

i don't deny it, mate...i was a journalism major fer a number 'o years and was a stringer fer the Star Ledge and the NYT in me youth. i don't mind that news organizations try to produce the right product to collect revenue...not everyone can be NPR, and afterall, i be a businessman meself!

all i care is that the news be well crafted and well investigated, provides context and makes the world more understandable fer this pirate.

- MeadHallPirate

Right, but do you not see that since you are the product the news organization is going to craft it's show to gather a certain demographic which increases the chance that the consumers (read advertisers/voters) can make money off of you. In this light there is really no source that will give you untainted news because they need to gather you, the product, for the buyers. Even NPR is effected by this as they have "underwriters" (advertisers) and they are selling you to them.

I don't think we really disagree. I don't think it matters what news agency does what. In the end certain people will always watch one type of show and others will go for a different slant.

Originally Posted by fishjoel

Right, but do you not see that since you are the product the news organization is going to craft it's show to gather a certain demographic which increases the chance that the consumers (read advertisers/voters) can make money off of you. In this light there is really no source that will give you untainted news because they need to gather you, the product, for the buyers. Even NPR is effected by this as they have "underwriters" (advertisers) and they are selling you to them.

I don't think we really disagree. I don't think it matters what news agency does what. In the end certain people will always watch one type of show and others will go for a different slant.

ahoy Fishjoel,

matey, i guess whar we disagree be the "product" part. ye have to understand, it may just come from a certain difference ye and meself have in our professional lives.

i've worked fer several newspapers, and even after i left the field, i dropped me anchor in the publishin' industry fer a number 'o years and made me livin' thar.

therefore, its not possible fer me to see the "product" as anythin' other than the fruits 'o me labors in them places. the consumer be the customer, and either they find our product compellin'...or they don't. either way, they be not the product, the product be the thing we created and that we're 'a sellin', aye?

to humor yer point 'o view, though;

i suppose if ye listen to nothin' but Rush Limbaugh (fer example), and he be yer sole prism to see the world through...then perhaps in the end, the listener is indeed a product, a drone, that actually cannot be thinkin' fer himself.

followin' that line 'o thinkin', then...

if ye listen to Rush Limbaugh and read the Wall Street Journal, then yer worldview broadens. if ye listen to Rush Limbaugh and read the Wall Street Journal and ye work in medicine, yer worldview broadens more. if ye listen to Rush Limbaugh and read the Wall Street Journal and yer a doctor and ye also read Salon, then yer worldview broadens more.

if ye listen to Rush Limbaugh and read the Wall Street Journal and yer a doctor who also reads Salon and then ye join the Peace Corps and volunteer fer work in west africa, then ye opinion becomes yet more nuanced, aye? the original "Rush Limbaugh product" hath become corrupted and be now multifaceted.

and so on and so forth.

*cheers at this fun exercise!*

in either case, i still disagree that the consumer 'o media a product. the media be the product.

as someone who worked in the field, matey, thar be no other way i can be seein' it.

*bows*

- MeadHallPirate

You want an example of Fox putting out false information to work up the idiots who think they are being informed .

Look no further than the "Common" fiasco. All of a sudden, all the usual suspects in these forums were outraged that Obama was having a gangster rapper invited to the White House, who glorified violence and praised cop killers.
These sadly misinformed ( and serially misinformed) individuals could not help but get that false impression because every "news" and "opinion" show on FOX was suddenly putting out the same message. A message that is demonstrably false, for anyone with google and a couple of minutes time.
This is the same thing that happens time and time again, FOX, and every show on FOX, suddenly run a story, that 3 minutes of fact checking would have killed on a legitimate news network.

So show me a false story that Soros has pushed, you can't, because your whole "Soros is evil" theory is another load of murdock crap that you have swallowed.

Originally Posted by goober

You want an example of Fox putting out false information to work up the idiots who think they are being informed .

Look no further than the "Common" fiasco. All of a sudden, all the usual suspects in these forums were outraged that Obama was having a gangster rapper invited to the White House, who glorified violence and praised cop killers.
These sadly misinformed ( and serially misinformed) individuals could not help but get that false impression because every "news" and "opinion" show on FOX was suddenly putting out the same message. A message that is demonstrably false, for anyone with google and a couple of minutes time.
This is the same thing that happens time and time again, FOX, and every show on FOX, suddenly run a story, that 3 minutes of fact checking would have killed on a legitimate news network.

So show me a false story that Soros has pushed, you can't, because your whole "Soros is evil" theory is another load of murdock crap that you have swallowed.

Took me less than 3 minutes to find the Wiki article about and “A Song For Assata” praising a Black Liberation Army member (Assata Shakur) convicted of first degree murder of a police officer.

As for Soros? He gave $1.8 million to NPR, which has no bias and is flawless, and I’m sure that money had no effect on their reporting. The AP, the NY Times, Washington Post, ABC, NBC all got money from him. No effect I’m sure.

You want a false story that Soros pushed, they are legion, but beyond the scope of this thread.

Originally Posted by Amielle

Took me less than 3 minutes to find the Wiki article about and “A Song For Assata” praising a Black Liberation Army member (Assata Shakur) convicted of first degree murder of a police officer.

Yep, it sings praises to some racist nigger

Originally Posted by goober

You want an example of Fox putting out false information to work up the idiots who think they are being informed .

Look no further than the "Common" fiasco. All of a sudden, all the usual suspects in these forums were outraged that Obama was having a gangster rapper invited to the White House, who glorified violence and praised cop killers.
These sadly misinformed ( and serially misinformed) individuals could not help but get that false impression because every "news" and "opinion" show on FOX was suddenly putting out the same message. A message that is demonstrably false, for anyone with google and a couple of minutes time.
This is the same thing that happens time and time again, FOX, and every show on FOX, suddenly run a story, that 3 minutes of fact checking would have killed on a legitimate news network.

Sure it was Faux rage and decidedly overblown but Goober you are surely misinformed.

Freedom is -is the right to be yourself, to be who you are,
to be who you wanna be, to do what you wanna do.

Which seemingly includes shooting police and or collaborating with those who do.

read the full lyrics here:
COMMON SENSE - A SONG FOR ASSATA LYRICS

Originally Posted by Amielle

I agree. I would gladly accept a vote from anyone here, for or against whatever. You at least put some thought into it.

Well, not anyone. We do have a lot of Canadians.

Originally Posted by goober

You want an example of Fox putting out false information to work up the idiots who think they are being informed .

Look no further than the "Common" fiasco. All of a sudden, all the usual suspects in these forums were outraged that Obama was having a gangster rapper invited to the White House, who glorified violence and praised cop killers.
These sadly misinformed ( and serially misinformed) individuals could not help but get that false impression because every "news" and "opinion" show on FOX was suddenly putting out the same message. A message that is demonstrably false, for anyone with google and a couple of minutes time.
This is the same thing that happens time and time again, FOX, and every show on FOX, suddenly run a story, that 3 minutes of fact checking would have killed on a legitimate news network.

So show me a false story that Soros has pushed, you can't, because your whole "Soros is evil" theory is another load of murdock crap that you have swallowed.

No link? Check...
No mention of Rupert Murdock? Check...
goober failing AGAIN to prove his point? Check...

The charge was:

Murdock shapes policy by making a phone call and having FOX and 175 newspapers editorialize his ideas the very next day.

Originally Posted by tsquare

No link? Check...
No mention of Rupert Murdock? Check...
goober failing AGAIN to prove his point? Check...

The charge was:

ahoy Tsquare,

matey, to return to yer OP, please cite me examples whar George Soros himself forcefully dictates the editorial slant or content 'o Christiane Amanpour's reportin' with his own hand at the helm 'o the media and boards he makes contributions to.

- MeadHallPirate