Thread: great job by the NYT, the best broadsheet in all the seven seas, aye!

I was always surprised at the results of working in different environments. Your typical floor worker in a factory can be very crude ... yet very generous. Upper management and the offices ... very little crudity and yet very generous people.

Behind closed doors and privacy the darker side emerges ... cunning and despicable plans evolve in the most "proper" manner. Now on the floor the same types of nefarious plans evolve yet not so proper. Plans to cause harm ... most times unfairly or improperly.

A simple example: I've determined a 10-80-10 ratio of different types of workers. 10 leaders, 80 followers, 10 useless. Now this ratio isn't the result of anything to do with the actual workforce ... other then conjecture. But steps will be taken to find 10% and eliminate them.

Yes everybody seems to be kind and generous ... good ole Mitt.

Originally Posted by michael h

I was always surprised at the results of working in different environments. Your typical floor worker in a factory can be very crude ... yet very generous. Upper management and the offices ... very little crudity and yet very generous people.

Behind closed doors and privacy the darker side emerges ... cunning and despicable plans evolve in the most "proper" manner. Now on the floor the same types of nefarious plans evolve yet not so proper. Plans to cause harm ... most times unfairly or improperly.

A simple example: I've determined a 10-80-10 ratio of different types of workers. 10 leaders, 80 followers, 10 useless. Now this ratio isn't the result of anything to do with the actual workforce ... other then conjecture. But steps will be taken to find 10% and eliminate them.
Yes everybody seems to be kind and generous ... good ole Mitt.

I must be really dense. That post is totally confusing and off topic. I simply couldn't make heads or tails of it.

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Originally Posted by MeadHallPirate

ahoy all,

amid the fusilade 'o derisive fire that Mitt Romney hath recieved from conservatives o'er the last few years, i've always felt that he was a very hard workin', highly intelligent, scrupulously fastidious money earner - and one who had a very wholesome streak inside 'o him.

almost boyscoutish, i see him as.

i think this comes out alot in his awful journeys into steerage when he has to speak to common folk, and the moron press (who usually be very smart people) who ask absurd questions in an attempt to frame issues in a way ordinary citizens can grasp.

the thing is, Mr. Romney isn't an ordinary citizen. he's intensely hard workin', sober and focused...and he has to roll his eyes at the ridiculous dog 'n pony show he's bein' subjected to....a real assault on anyone's dignity, i'd say.
i think he's a fundamentally decent fella, aye. it seems that no one remembers his father George, who was the kinda Republican that i'd have no trouble supportin'. 'tis not unreasonable that to say that Mitt be a true inheritor to his father's sense 'o "doin' the right thing".

this be a tale before Mr. Romney's time at Bain;


http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/10/us...agewanted=1&hp

good job by the New York Times. ye would never see a piece like this on the cover 'o the Wall Street Journal on Mr. Obama - certainly not in this election year, at least.

i knew fellas like Mitt when i lived in the leafy suburbs 'o New York City, a wealthy New Jersey enclave. i found these folks a bit smug (maybe o'erconfident would be a more fair term, aye), slightly outta touch in a cultural sense, kinda conservative....but i found'm really nice folks - i was friends with some 'o them passed the time on decks with'm. they don't feel they be up to no good.

they worked, they played, they went to church, they raised thar families, they went to lacrosse matches, they went to the orchestra in the summer time, and they made lots 'o monies.

aye.

- MeadHallPirate

The reason you would never see a piece anywhere like this on Obama is because he believes that the government should lend or give the money, not him. He would love to be a philanthropist with other people's money.

Originally Posted by OldmanDan

I must be really dense. That post is totally confusing and off topic. I simply couldn't make heads or tails of it.

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The reason you would never see a piece anywhere like this on Obama is because he believes that the government should lend or give the money, not him. He would love to be a philanthropist with other people's money.

Nice determination of off topic when submitting you don't know if your dense.

The differences:

"i think this comes out alot in his awful journeys into steerage when he has to speak to common folk" (implying Mitt is not common folk)

"frame issues in a way ordinary citizens can grasp." (implying Mitt is not an ordinary citizen)

"the thing is, Mr. Romney isn't an ordinary citizen" (need I say?)


"i knew fellas like Mitt when i lived in the leafy suburbs 'o New York City, a wealthy New Jersey enclave."

" i found these folks a bit smug (maybe o'erconfident would be a more fair term, aye), slightly outta touch in a cultural sense"

The observation of apparent decency:

but i found'm really nice folks - i was friends with some 'o them passed the time on decks with'm. they don't feel they be up to no good.

they worked, they played, they went to church, they raised thar families, they went to lacrosse matches, they went to the orchestra in the summer time, and they made lots 'o monies.

Originally Posted by OldmanDan

The reason you would never see a piece anywhere like this on Obama is because he believes that the government should lend or give the money, not him. He would love to be a philanthropist with other people's money.

ahoy OldmanDan,

well, okies, if thats what ye take away from me post.

also, ye have to give the NYT credit fer puttin' this on thar front page.

- MeadHallPirate

Originally Posted by MeadHallPirate

ahoy OldmanDan,

well, okies, if thats what ye take away from me post.

also, ye have to give the NYT credit fer puttin' this on thar front page.

- MeadHallPirate

Should I have connected the dots between the fusilade 'o derisive fire from conservatives and a liberal rags generous words? Never mind I'll just be off topic.

Good find MHP. A rare objective article from the NYT.

Originally Posted by MeadHallPirate

ahoy OldmanDan,

well, okies, if thats what ye take away from me post.

also, ye have to give the NYT credit fer puttin' this on thar front page.

- MeadHallPirate

I will give the New York Times credit for doing so. I'll take your word that it was a front page story. I haven't see it anywhere else which is odd because most NYT front page stories are posted all over the web. I found the story on the politics page on the Web and since I don't subscribe to the paper version, I'll take your word for it being a front page story.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/10/us...pagewanted=all

I will note that they found the information while scouring his financial filings. Probably not what they were looking for but I will give them credit for reporting something favorable about Romney.

Ahoy Pirate,
Back in the 90's I worked for a private city club in CA kind of like an old English men’s club. It was ultra wealthy ultra conservative although I was a union employee and received a good salary they always added a 20% grat to any tab plus allowing any employee to take home any left over food from that day and what was not taken by employees was sent to the local food bank. Also for Christmas I received by far the largest bonus I have ever had from a company plus members also gave private envelopes with checks and cash to employees. I have worked in alot of different environments but no other place I have worked was as nice to me as they were and not just monetarily they were just very very nice and no one ever talked down to me in a condescending manner like I was just the help which has happened in other establishments.

Originally Posted by Q of U

Ahoy Pirate,
Back in the 90's I worked for a private city club in CA kind of like an old English men’s club. It was ultra wealthy ultra conservative although I was a union employee and received a good salary they always added a 20% grat to any tab plus allowing any employee to take home any left over food from that day and what was not taken by employees was sent to the local food bank. Also for Christmas I received by far the largest bonus I have ever had from a company plus members also gave private envelopes with checks and cash to employees. I have worked in alot of different environments but no other place I have worked was as nice to me as they were and not just monetarily they were just very very nice and no one ever talked down to me in a condescending manner like I was just the help which has happened in other establishments.

ahoy Q of U,

imma glad ye posted that story.

i mean, i get why Mr. Obama's campaign is beatin' this "Romney is rich therefore he's evil" kinda drum. i understand thar tactics, and it does differ somewhat with the more soarin' campaign Mr. Axelrod ran just a few years ago. i got chills seein' candidate Obama's reception in Berlin...i think i'd have been moved by the spectacle 'o it no matter what party the candidate was hailin' from.

i think this line 'o attack will have traction with the voters, too (just as them absurd clips 'o Senator Kerry windsurfin' were effective pieces), but i also think its all sorta ridiculous.

i think Mitt is a pretty decent guy. in alot 'o ways, i admire him.

again, i've said this all in the past.

i just thought it was very balanced 'o the NYT to put a humanizin' personality piece on Mitt on thar cover page.

- MeadHallPirate

Originally Posted by jviehe

Good find MHP. A rare objective article from the NYT.

ahoy Jviehe,

to be honest, the only truly positive pieces i've read regardin' Mr. Romney hath been in the New York Times.

- MeadHallPirate

Originally Posted by MeadHallPirate

ahoy Jviehe,

to be honest, the only truly positive pieces i've read regardin' Mr. Romney hath been in the New York Times.

- MeadHallPirate

But still rare for them. They currently have articles up on how his job growth promises are wrong, repeating Obamas romney hood comments, romneys gaffe on the Shiek shooting, how hes ignorant and backwards on social issues, his 'foreign policy foolishness', etc.

Originally Posted by jviehe

But still rare for them. They currently have articles up on how his job growth promises are wrong, repeating Obamas romney hood comments, romneys gaffe on the Shiek shooting, how hes ignorant and backwards on social issues, his 'foreign policy foolishness', etc.

ahoy Jviehe,

to be fair to the NYT, thar hath been many articles pointin' to weaknesses the skipper has. they hath had articles rangin' from how quickly he's blowin' through his campaign cash (and as we both know, monies be the mother's milk 'o politics, yarrrr!), how little the national numbers hath moved despite the huge early financial commitment the Obama campaign hath made, the troublin' job numbers and how they bode ill fer the POTUS, the Obama administration's deal with big pharma to protect thar products durin' the craftin' 'o the ACA, the "kill lists" that Mr. Obama keeps, and on and on and on.

the NYT has actually been rather critical 'o the skipper.

- MeadHallPirate

But the topic is Romney. Anyway, the bias of the NYT is a given. No need to argue it.