Thanks


It seams like no one ever talks about the Unions making money

I still dont see how thats any different. The employees are the company.

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Exactly wrong. As you yourself have previously pointed out, the shareholders are the company and its only purpose is to increase shareholder value. One could make the argument that the executives are the company since they set direction and dictate most activities. But the employees are most definititly not the company.

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Greetings and Felicitations,

I think there is a fundamental difference in the two statments:

Walmart took 272.9 million dollars from its profits and donated it to charity.

Versus

Walmart employees collected 272.9 million dollars and donated it to charity.

I think there is a big difference between the employees and the company. For example, Walmart just instituted a dress code for employees that involves blue shirt and khaki pants. Many of the employees are not happy about this change but the corporate rules are being enforced without their input.

Sincerely Yours,
C. David Neely

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Why would employee input be required to establish a corporate policy? The company isn't owned by or operated for employees.

No, unless they own company stock, they're employed by the company, nothing else.

Greetings and Felicitations,

Walmart makes a big thing about employee participation and respect for individuality. I was making a response to the post about walmart being its employees.


Sincerely Yours,
C. David Neely

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Ok, but Walmart isnt a person. Walmart is made up of people. Those people took from their salary, which comes from Walmarts revenue. So, in essence, Walmart gave the money to their employees to give to charity. Its very fluid.

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Greetings and Felicitations,

Walmart does give the money to their employees. Their employees worked for it. Your reply insinuates that the employees didn't do anything to get it but simply received it. I, at least, give an honest days labor for the money I get and no one gave it to me. I worked for it.

Sincerely Yours,
C. David Neely

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Its the same thing in my mind as it relates to a business. You might also say that Walmarts customer donated the money by buying things.

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What's nonsense? You didn't refute what I said. You keep talking about something that isn't reality or law today. I am talking about what IS the reality today. The reality is that employers are under no obligation to provide their employees with health insurance. That's a fact, Jack. It doesn't matter whether or not you agree with it. They don't have to do it. Period. If the government mandates that some day they do, that's a different story, but that hasn't happened so I don't know why you keep going back to that.

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THIS IS REAL HOPE AND CHANGE!

You said "The free market decides". The free market is a child's fantasy which has never and will never decide anything at all. So it's nonsense.

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-Hiring of illegal immigrants?
-Destroying small-town economies?
-Negative environmental impacts?
-Lowering of real wages?
-Funding of right-wing/fascist causes?
-The "Buy American" campaign?
-Need more examples?

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Allow me to put the half-billion in perspective for you, my dear friend.

The report didn't say how the bonuses were allocated. But let's assume they were applied evenly across the 813,759 million hourly employees who received a bonus (the other 1/2 million weren't worthy). This amounts to a bonus of $651.05 for each "associate." And if we assume a 40 hour work week over 52 weeks, this works out to a 31.3 cent/hour raise.

Whoop-de-fucking-do. When you're making $8/hour, another 31 cents/hour ain't gonna drag you above the poverty line.

Did you know that Wal-Mart brings in about $229,860,320 in PROFIT every single DAY!?!? (#s from their 2006 annual report)

Meaning that they gave up 2.3 days worth of revenue.

Again, whoop-de-fucking-doo.

I'd be much more impressed if they paid all of their employees a living wage & benefits.

They can obviously afford to do so.

(And now you probably see the reason that I avoid all Wal-Mart owned operations like the Bubonic Plague.)

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Thomas Jefferson

is that all? come now....because that doesn't come close to shady imho....bought a pair of sneakers lately?

and that’s not really what this about and we all know it...they provide low prices by keeping overhead down....and providing limited health care helps that is the health care industry at fault? Maybe but that’s another debate....since the fist company genius found a way to get around price and wage controls by offering free health care for employees in lieu of pay, back in the late 40's....the debate has been manufactured that health care is a now an employees right.....I would like everyone to be covered..no doubt..but is this a personal responsibility or a governmental one...or a company one? That’s the debate really.....imho....

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Ipso- if the rights of the individual get in the way, the rights of the individual must be sublimated.

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