That's weird. My vote made it 3-3 (between all and none).

I would imagine the "Prvitize Everything" would be even a smaller minority. This is because people really have to think to want something other than status-quo. Since the "man on the street" hasn't done this, he will probably vote for status-quo.

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That still wouldn't be a tie. If you'll notice, there's "None" and "None, and anyone who thinks it should be is a crazed lunatic!" and when liberty claimed a tie, the vote was 33% for, 33% against and 33% against and "anyone who thinks it should be is a crazed lunatic". No matter how you look at it, it was 66% against and 33% for so sorry, no tie.

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"Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways - Chardonnay in one hand - chocolate in the other - body thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and screaming "WOO HOO, What a Ride!"

I'm pretty sure I'm the real dumbarse who hasn't got a clue on this little mathematical blunder. I just looked to see that all three responses were at 33%. You would think, that as the author of the poll, I would know the response choices a little better than that.

And, I predict that by the end of the day, my side will be less than 10%. I didn't mean I would get any more votes.

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Sure, people should have the right to bear arms and to by security guards, but the enforcement of law is a duty of the state. State-police and state-army were necessary to give everyone without regard of money the access to justice.
Also a competition between different laws isn`t favourable, because a monopoly of law is much more effective and is in many cases the foundation of the existence of global markets.
Privatized security would be a step backwards. Common rules are a precondition for the cooperation between humans who don`t know each other.


Ideas about privatized security are nice tought experiments, and i enjoyed the reading of David Friedmans "the machinery of freedom", but he didn`t convince me. Maybe privatized security would be better than communism and fascism, but a constitutional democracy is superior.

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No, unfortunatly I was an idiot on this one...

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-Thomas Jefferson in his first inauguration address

The worst part is, my minor is Math...

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-Thomas Jefferson in his first inauguration address

Point taken. I wasn't including the final option since it seemed based on emotion rather than reason. (I may have different ideas than most, but if you put me in a lineup with Charles Manson, of the two of us, I probably wouldn't be considered the crazed lunatic. )

No. I won't see it as a win. But the fact that the "privitizers" have lost the poll does not in any way mean we are wrong.

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-Thomas Jefferson in his first inauguration address

LOL Silly, YOU started the thread! How could you forget you had two "nones"?

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"Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways - Chardonnay in one hand - chocolate in the other - body thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and screaming "WOO HOO, What a Ride!"

ok maybe i interpreted "privatize" wrong, but when you say privatize defense i have this image of someone handing over the army to a corporate entity of some kind. This seems like a bad idea because corporate entities have no loyalty to country, but to the profit margin. Thus the army would not be able to provide defense to the citizens, but to the highest bidder.

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I just look at what US corporate mercenaries are doing in Iraq and I know that the privatization of defense is a horrible idea.

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What are they doing in Iraq? I assume killing people? And did the corporations just decide to go over there for the hell of it, or is the US paying them to go to Iraq?

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-Thomas Jefferson in his first inauguration address

Like I said, I was an idiot...

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-Thomas Jefferson in his first inauguration address

Yes. They're murdering civilians, and answerable to nobody.

Some are being paid by the US government via contract. Some are not. In any case, merging the profit motive with the duties of defense (the military) is a Bad Thing.

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Staun ma groon al nae be afraid
Thoughts awe hame tak awa ma fear
Sweat an bluid hide ma veil awe tears