Visit the U.S. Politics Online Discussion Forum Archives!
![]() |
|
|||||||
| Economic Issues Business, Commerce, Consumer Affairs, Economics, Public Finance, Trade |
| View Poll Results: On what levels, if any, should defense be private? | |||
| Local Only |
|
0 | 0% |
| Local and State Only |
|
1 | 2.44% |
| Local, State and National (All Levels) |
|
5 | 12.20% |
| State and National |
|
2 | 4.88% |
| National |
|
1 | 2.44% |
| None |
|
17 | 41.46% |
| None, and anyone who thinks it should be is a crazed lunatic! |
|
15 | 36.59% |
| Voters: 41. You may not vote on this poll | |||
![]() |
|
|
LinkBack (2) | Thread Tools | Display Modes |
|
||||
|
Re: Privitizing Defense
Quote:
__________________
|
|
||||
|
Re: Privitizing Defense
Exactly. I want to be protected by my government and have my needs provided by my government, not some money-hungry corporation. I have no say in how the corporation is run. There is no telling when a corporation might collapse. I should NEVER have to pay someone for a need so basic as living. I cannot imagine why anybody would want to. I cannot think of any good thing that could come from privatization of something like defense. Some people are insane.
__________________
|
|
|||
|
Re: Privitizing Defense
Quote:
Besides, none of this addresses the fact that nuclear weapons have never been used outside of two occasions. Those who have them realize the vast destructive potential they possess. And given that the US invaded two countries and overthrew their governments over a non-nuclear attack that killed 3,000 people, it's not bloody likely that the rest of the world would take kindly to anyone using nuclear weapons againt anyone else. |
|
||||
|
Re: Privitizing Defense
Quote:
__________________
|
|
||||
|
Re: Privitizing Defense
Say we reduced our military by 90%, still more than adequate to repulse an attack on the homeland, but not enough to interfere in the affairs of others halfway around the world, what would we have to fear?
__________________
“ The subjects of every state ought to contribute towards the support of the government, as nearly as possible, in proportion to their respective abilities; that is, in proportion to the revenue which they respectively enjoy under the protection of the state.” Adam Smith , The Wealth of Nations 1776 "We have always known that heedless self-interest was bad morals; we know now that it is bad economics" FDR's second Inaugural Address |
|
|||
|
Re: Privitizing Defense
What an interesting question! No, I would be opposed to the idea. My first objection is that at present government (I'm not locating this response, it's in the abstract, geographically speaking) owns the military and can tell it what to do (please let's not get hung up about the nature of government). If it was a private corporation providing military services there is no way known that a contract can be written which covers every contingency. The corporation would find ways of wriggling out of its obligations for sure.
My other objection is that the corporation is driven by only one thing - the need to make profit. I would assume that the model being thought of is that government negotiates a fee for service after contract negotiations. The fee is received. How does the corporation make a profit like this? It makes sure that its costs are lower than the fee received, doesn't it? So it cuts its costs, guess what, first thing to go is maintenance. Let's keep those planes flying eh? We don't want them falling out of the sky on us.
__________________
"There were no D-Day Heroes in 1973" - Cold Chisel Khe Sanh |
|
|||
|
Re: Privitizing Defense
Why are you asking me that question when I've already answered it? If you aren't going to offer anything else substantive to the conversation, it seems rather silly to expect me to respond differently. Feigned incredulity is a real conversation stopper.
|
|
||||
|
Re: Privitizing Defense
I didn't repeat myself. In your response you said...
Quote:
__________________
|
|
|||
|
Re: Privitizing Defense
Quote:
The second problem is that there is no existing state to topple. In order to conquer "America" the attacker would have to have armies stationed all over the "US." Further, when the conquerer has conquered "America", giving orders to the conquered people will be diffucilt because there is no existing state to serve as a conduit between the conquered and the conquerer.
__________________
"Sometimes it is said that man cannot be trusted with the government of himself. Can he, then, be trusted with the government of others? Or have we found angels in the form of kings to govern him? Let history answer this question." -Thomas Jefferson in his first inauguration address |
|
||||
|
Re: Privitizing Defense
Quote:
__________________
|
|
|||
|
Re: Privitizing Defense
If the US was completly prvitized, it would not be like Iraq. Iraq already had a very strong system of government in place. While the US toppled the existing government, held elections, and new people became the government, the fact is, replacing one government with another is not the same as replacing no government with a government. It is diffivult to convey orders this way. This was my second point, but obviously you did not read that.
I do not think that the US will become like Iraq for any sustained period of time for the reason I just mentioned. If another country attacks, it will be met with heavy resistance. Sure, it might get a little rough, but not as rough as the current world situation. At most, the conquering army would be able to conquer a small portion of the American area. Right now, the rights of all Americans are violated daily. We have already been conquered. Quote:
__________________
"Sometimes it is said that man cannot be trusted with the government of himself. Can he, then, be trusted with the government of others? Or have we found angels in the form of kings to govern him? Let history answer this question." -Thomas Jefferson in his first inauguration address |
|
|||
|
Re: Privitizing Defense
Quote:
"The reason we're hated now is because of our power. Memories or no, the main reason to attack another nation is because it is a threat. If the US is not a threat, then there's no reason to attack. Al Qaeda has a habit of going after the most powerful in its path." |
![]() |
| Bookmarks |
| Thread Tools | |
| Display Modes | |
|
|
LinkBacks (?)
LinkBack to this Thread: http://www.uspoliticsonline.com/economic-issues/39107-privitizing-defense.html
|
|||
| Posted By | For | Type | Date |
| Privitizing Defense - U.S. Politics Online: A Political Discussion Forum | This thread | Refback | 06-20-2007 06:24 PM |
| Privitizing Defense - Page 6 - U.S. Politics Online: A Political Discussion Forum | This thread | Refback | 06-19-2007 04:07 PM |