There are always exceptions to many rules. How about individuals who feel a sense of entitlement from trust funds? It may not be public money, but they didn't have to work for that, either.

In Post #22: Steve, Member Since Nov 2006, Posts: 7,012, stated:

which is interesting.

I've been coming to USPO since March 2004, and yet I have less posts than Steve. It appears that either Steve is more lazy than me and doesn't work for a living at all - or, he is far more guilty than I of 'expecting to be rewarded for just showing up' - and uses the time his employer is paying him to work to hang around on this site and cast aspersions on other posters.

Ihave already stated that I don't visit this site when at work, as, for me, to do so would technically be on a par with stealing from my employer.

However, I do believe that working hard I deserve to have time off, during which I might frequent this site along with many other activities.

If however Steve is as hardworking as he seems to think he is, its amazing that he has managed to clock up over 7000 posts here in less than a year.

all. except casual employees. casaual employees get a 20% casual loading (in same industries 25%) in lieu of the benefits permanent employees get.

Part time employees - well - if you don't work on a Monday, you won't get Monday public holidays. you can only get paid for a day you would normally work.

in cases where people are required to work on a public holiday they usually get double time. In at least some industries this applies to casuals - but I don't think its universal.

minimum conditions - but does not apply to casual workers who get the 20 - 25% loading in lieu.

no - the 17.5% is AS WELL AS the holiday - you work and its double pay (ie - instead of $15 ph - its $30 per hour)

this is an absolute minimum - and even casual workers are entitled to this. Many get 13 weeks.

minimum, except for casual workers, who get the loading in lieu.

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- 1 years parenting leave, with a guaranteed right to return to the same, or an equivalent job, on the same rate of pay?

3 months equivalent parenting leave, per birth (not sure how they handle multiples). Can also be used in some other circumstances, such as a parent in failing health. [quote]

many employers will allow permanent employees to take leave without pay for a number of reasons, but its not guaranteed.

I only know of casuals on minimum wage - and these are paid $13.74 + 20% loading.

You mean when the unions got too greedy and put themselves out of work.

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Anyone who thinks freedom comes cheap, please put the blindfold on and stand against the wall.

Many times I believe Americans will have to take back the country and start a new government.

Or maybe it means you should get out from behind that menial "would you like fried with that" hourly job, get an education, and get yourself a salaried job which permits you greater latitude to enjoy your free time.

I'm on salary. I do a good deal of my work from home. If I decide not to work at all one day, I can do that. If I decide that I can work 18 hours one day, I can do that, too. My employer has no problem with it one way or the other.

Seriously, you just hit the bottom of the barrel with regards to being pathetic...

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Sayeth John Drake - 10/13/08: "OK, you're right, I admit to LYING"

I'm sure this will come as a shock to you but, if someone is left a trust fund, they are entitled to the money in it...

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Sayeth John Drake - 10/13/08: "OK, you're right, I admit to LYING"

Maybe they didn't become more efficient as business became more efficient. I think unions have sufficient membership to compete with some public sectors with scale economies.

They could be using that advantage to reduce per unit costs to their members, in much the same manner as the public sector can reduce per unit costs to the individual consumer of statism.

I thought, you were claiming that hard work is rewarding?

I don't deny that capitalism can work in a mixed market economy.

It is.

Not that you'd know from personal experience.

Have I said (and I know you'll be kind enough to either provide the quote or admit you're a hammerhead) that hard work is the only thing which is rewarding?

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Sayeth John Drake - 10/13/08: "OK, you're right, I admit to LYING"

How does your view account for this position: Does hard work have to be rewarded?

Rather unlikely accusation.

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No, not at all.

But someone who doesn't work hard should expect no reward. Those who do, while not being guaranteed it, will have earned it when they get it.

Too many panty-waists seem to think that, if some reward isn't guaranteed, then the effort of working hard shouldn't even be expended.

That's stupid...

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Sayeth John Drake - 10/13/08: "OK, you're right, I admit to LYING"

It does bring up the point of, why should I work hard, if there is no guarantee of being rewarded?

I don't mind working. I don't mind working hard; but, working hard is no guarantee that I will make more than someone who does not work hard.

Thus, it is not necessarily hard work that is rewarding.

And yet so many people seem to want to reward laziness.

If you think there should be a guarantee of a reward for hard work, you should probably just continue sittin' on your ass, contemplating your navel.

The fact that you even have to ask the question above (in bold) tells me that you're content with being lazy.

Well, that looks good on you, I suppose...

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Sayeth John Drake - 10/13/08: "OK, you're right, I admit to LYING"

I don't think anyone should not be rewarded for working hard either. However, if we are going to maintain a safety net, why not reward couch potatoes, at rock bottom cost; a hypothetical minimum wage, that pays people to not produce labor input to the economy; as a form of competition between the public and private sectors?

I don't think of it as rewarding lazy people, but as promoting and providing for the general Welfare, in a manner that can also provide and promote efficiency gains in our economy.