I dont get your point. Manufacturing overseas reduces costs which leads to more profit. Businesses arent in business to make jobs for local workers. They are in it for profit.

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Elminate all taxes on income and replace with a national sales tax.

No need to attack me personally. If you disagree with my assement, put forth a rational argument.

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Elminate all taxes on income and replace with a national sales tax.

Hardly, but I dont mind finally getting some money back. Better in my pocket than the govts.

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Elminate all taxes on income and replace with a national sales tax.

What "money back?" It's a loan from the Chinese, not a refund.

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I know, I just think we should reverse that, take measures to make it profitable to hire local workers instead of foreign workers, so that not only do the businesses make a profit, but American consumers and workers can afford to purchase their products and boost the profit.

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And, what "measures" would you take?

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Cut taxes for companies that hire American workers, possibly even get rid of some taxes for them completley, get rid of the national minimum wage, give tax cuts, tax credits, and tax free saving accounts to workers so that employers won't have to supply healthcare, oh and enforcing existing immigration laws would help.

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-The Bill of Rights
-Decentralization
-Democratic Process
-Non-agression
-Constitutional gov't
-Anti-militarism
-Oversight in gov't
-Read the Bills Act
-Accountability

c'mon attacking? - believe me you would know if I was attacking you.
I am jesting...you are overtly optimistic on the economy, why - I don't know.

The economy sucks jviehe...for those of us who run businesses...it is terrible.

And how would any of that result in the migration of jobs back to the US?


And, how do you pay for these tax cuts? More borrowing?

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There is no way to cut taxes enough to make up for the incredibly low wages that can be paid in some foreign countries. We are talking about a 90% labor cost savings, or more, partially offset by shipping costs, but comparatively speaking that and the entire tax burden together represent only a small fraction of the savings.

Jviehe is of course correct: this is exactly what we should expect a for-profit business to do, given the opportunity. Business sinks to the level of depravity allowed by law. If the results are bad, as in this case, blame the law, not the companies. (Unless the companies break the law, of course.) It's the government's fault for encouraging this sort of thing, and it's the government that needs to change its policies.

What we need to do, is to discard the idea that free trade is automatically a good thing. Free trade with the U.S. should become a privilege that foreign countries can earn by guaranteeing labor rights and protecting the environment as well as we do, or better. For those that don't, we should apply tariffs sufficient to make it no more profitable to produce goods in those countries than it is to produce them here. In the worst cases, an outright ban on imports from those countries might be in order.

Not only would this bring our capital home (or send it to other countries where the investment doesn't hurt our economy), but it would also give other countries an incentive to improve their protection of labor rights and the environment, so as to earn the privilege of free trade with the U.S., rather than, as we have now, creating an incentive to keep their work force oppressed and cheap so as to attract American investors. AND, by providing upward pressure on wages, this would also increase consumer buying power which would help manufacturers' sales and hence profits. Everyone would benefit except third-world dictators.

I particularly liked this paragraph. I have to agree, but unfortunately I don't see it actually happening.

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Nice post here....however, like Pram - it ain't gonna happen. Our government is completely in the tank with large corporations - which basically means - laws and regulations will reflect what is good for their bottom line.
Hell guys - even freedom of speech is a commodity that is bought and sold.

Ah, so cynical.

But history teaches us that trends do not always continue. Sometimes they provoke a reaction which leads to a reversal. That the government is in the pocket of big corporations is widely agreed -- and most people aren't very happy about it. And things are bad enough now that something will change, because it has to, one way or another.

Exactly what, I don't know. To introduce my own cynicism: the perception that we are in crisis is no guarantee that it will be handled intelligently and in fact it's almost a guarantee that it won't.

It would become more profitable for businesses to hire Americans, and businesses that currently hire Americans will be able to better compete with those that don't. I also agree with TSGracchus on trade, historically protectionism as done more good than bad for our economy.

Cut spending, get rid of the departments of education, energy, and homeland security, get out of the UN and take our money with us, pull out of the Middle East, Europe, and South Korea.

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-The Bill of Rights
-Decentralization
-Democratic Process
-Non-agression
-Constitutional gov't
-Anti-militarism
-Oversight in gov't
-Read the Bills Act
-Accountability

Tax cuts wouldn't even come close. You're talking about a 10-fold difference in salaries; higher if you include benefits. In order to make it profitable to move those jobs back from overseas the government would have to pay these companies hundreds of billions of dollars.


Ah. Not a whole lot of grip on reality, then.

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