uh...then who's fault is it?

The morons who ok'd this specific form of interaction, like with the DoD that Rummy brought into this century the same has to happen with our electronic money system.

Our tax code is outdated, sure, but the technical problems are to do with government database systems and IT policy.

If bank accounts are tied in to SS numbers/details then no way can it be the fault of the IRS if they send the rebate to the SS number which is due the rebate.

okay whats a gdi?...goddamn independent?

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No individual can plan his own existence in their view.

So the state planners must arrogate to themselves the right to manipulate any sector of the economic system if the good of “society” or the “general welfare” is paramount.

Ipso- if the rights of the individual get in the way, the rights of the individual must be sublimated.

The Road to Serfdom
FA Hayek (interpretation)


Mortgage Backed Security survivor

well I assumed it was some acronym for illuminatti

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No individual can plan his own existence in their view.

So the state planners must arrogate to themselves the right to manipulate any sector of the economic system if the good of “society” or the “general welfare” is paramount.

Ipso- if the rights of the individual get in the way, the rights of the individual must be sublimated.

The Road to Serfdom
FA Hayek (interpretation)


Mortgage Backed Security survivor

Before you generate a petition check on the numbers. That $300B is already $435B. Leadership keeps telling us it's fixed, but given the ongoing monetary expansion one can't help but wonder about the validity of that reassurance.

A couple of years ago, I noticed that the IRS didn't cash my quarterly payment. I worried about it for a couple of months.
Then I saw a story in the Wall Street Journal. Mellon bank was running the Pittsburgh lockbox for the IRS, they told their people "no overtime and no one leaves til all the checks are processed", so the employees just processed all the checks they had left at the end of the day by tossing them in the dumpster, so they could go home on time, and this went on for months.
I've worked at a company Mellon took over, they are cheap beyond belief, they make a fortune taking over companies that pay well, and give their employees good benefits, and changing that.


So the next year, when I filed, and the IRS noticed that my quarterly payment was missing, they billed me for the payment, plus the penalty, plus interest, but there was an address you sent a letter to, saying that you paid, and then they would send you a corrected bill for just the amount of the missing payment, it ended up being an 18 month interest free loan.

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“ The subjects of every state ought to contribute towards the support of the government, as nearly as possible, in proportion to their respective abilities; that is, in proportion to the revenue which they respectively enjoy under the protection of the state.”

Adam Smith , The Wealth of Nations 1776

"We have always known that heedless self-interest was bad morals; we know now that it is bad economics"
FDR's second Inaugural Address

I am shocked, shocked I say.

This is really hard to believe. I mean who throws important things into a dumpster?

INDIANAPOLIS (WISH) - Hundreds of files containing medical histories and Social Security numbers were found in the trash on Indianapolis' east side. The records belong to homeless veterans.

Some of the records date back to 2004 and 24-Hour News 8 found boxes of them in a dumpster.

WISH TV 8: Indianapolis News and Weather - Personal information belong to homeless veterans found in dumpster

And another example...

Careless disposal of VA records in trash bins makes Porter bristle
02/24/07


Congressman Jon Porter : 2007 : Careless disposal of VA records in trash bins makes Porter bristle

And another....

ORLANDO, Fla. -- An exclusive Problem Solver investigation found patients' most private information, including financial records, medical charts and lab tests, trashed in an open Dumpster in Titusville, Florida.

Medical Records Found Trashed In Dumpster - Money News Story - WKMG Orlando

There are many more examples. Privacy is pretty much dead and freedom will soon die as well.

But don't take my word for it, just wait another 30 years.

AS TO THE STIMULUS CHECKS....

Most of the people I have talked to are going to use the money to pay down credit card debt. How is this going to stimulate anything?

What a joke. More pathetic moves from a corrupt government that only morons would support.

Looks like USA cannot administer itself properly because of enormous size.

I think it's more of a Peter Principal circumstance.

It becomes more ridiculous the deeper one delves into how the US public receiving the money can spend it.

Food - Any increased demand will drive grain commodity prices higher as
they compete with ethanol which will be reflected by more expensive
future loaves of bread, dairy products, poultry, beef and pork in a
country that's already a net food importer

Retail - What item in a big box store isn't imported? Just one?

Fuel - AAA says it costs $.414/mile to operate a small sedan at 15,000/miles
per year, or a whopping 725 miles for $300. 64% of the fuel cost is
imported and imported cars now outsell domestics

Unless they spend the whole thing on fast food (still imported beef and condiments) they're basically taking more borrowed money and sending it back offshore into lender pockets.

But as long as that manipulated GDP can be grown by debt to look like it's holding or gaining .01%, the morons will continue on their path to a standard of living with wealth distribution equaling that of Mexico.

maybe that's the plan, you know, make America so poor, that the undocumented aliens will flee south for the economic opportunity .................

Can't you see the Mexican Border Patrol trying to stem the human flood as it washes over the Rio Grande, headed for the golden opportunities in Mexico City.

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“ The subjects of every state ought to contribute towards the support of the government, as nearly as possible, in proportion to their respective abilities; that is, in proportion to the revenue which they respectively enjoy under the protection of the state.”

Adam Smith , The Wealth of Nations 1776

"We have always known that heedless self-interest was bad morals; we know now that it is bad economics"
FDR's second Inaugural Address

The original rationalization was to reduce national debt and the trade imbalance with cheap USD. Then it was 'discovered' that works in reverse when the middle class has no purchasing power to maintain or expand GDP when wealth distribution is lodged at the top. Public debt then became the accepted substitute for GDP growth.

I'd think the Mexican Border Patrol would accept serious la mordida to ignore illegal border crossings, just as it now does. The big difference would be
volume, making that job one of high envy. For those Americans unfamiliar with Mexican customs, it's much like Las Vegas where the 'toke' determines access and level of acceptability.

No stimulus check yet BUT My SOC check has been on time for 17 years. (That's 204 months)

Great points. This is why you and I agree on so much. We both realize the importance of manufacturing to the US, while the majority of the American people have been brainwashed and allow the scam we call "free trade" to be imposed upon us.

The sheeple argue over which party is more corrupt than the other, meanwhile their tax dollars go straight to bankers and the profits made form their purchases go to foreign companies. How can we keep this up?

Easy, just lend the US government and the people more and more money until..............

........until the future when some "other" suckers will have to pay for our borrowing.


"The system of banking we have both equally and ever reprobated. I contemplate it as a blot left in all our constitutions, which, if not covered, will end in their destruction, which is already hit by the gamblers in corruption, and is sweeping away in its progress the fortunes and morals of our citizens.Funding I consider as limited, rightfully, to a redemption of the debt within the lives of a majority of the generation contracting it; every generation coming equally, by the laws of the Creator of the world, to the free possession of the earth He made for their subsistence, unencumbered by their predecessors, who, like them, were but tenants for life."--Thomas Jefferson

Encyclopædia Britannica's Guide to American Presidents

If only the people would wake from their slumber. Somebody is gonna have to pay the debt. It already costs 430 billion a year.

The national debt will hit 10 trillion dollars soon.......

SEN. TOM COBURN (R-OK): It's $31,027 per American.

MASON: Last year alone, the U.S. spent $430 billion just on interest payments, nearly as much as we spent on education.

Media Matters - CBS report on "mind-numbing" national debt made no mention of Republican-led Congress' years of deficit spending on Bush tax cuts, Iraq

Gee, only 430 billion a year, just to pay the interest on the debt, while it continues to grow every year. What happens to the payments if interest rates go up?

The government and the FED do whatever it takes to make sure the economy grows every month. No matter how much money they have to piss away to do it. We have been living in a false economy for decades, yet few people even realize it. It is not natural for an economy to grow every single quarter. It is not sustainable.

Of course, through smoke and mirrors the economy can grow every single quarter, but how long will the illusion keep working?