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Old 06-11-2008
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Re: Recession Deepens: biggest unemployment jump in 22 years.

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Why at this time of year did unemployment jump?

Could it be because a ton of grads were out looking for work?
As if a student would consider doing work for $5-7.
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Re: Recession Deepens: biggest unemployment jump in 22 years.

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In short, well over 600,000 people who were not job seekers in April became job seekers in May. And who starts looking for work at the end of Spring? That’s right – students. Hundreds of thousands of students are looking for work right now, and they’re not finding it.
I really hope that American students are not so dump/stupid just to start searching for a job only after graduation. It just doesn't sound like appropriate career planing.
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Re: Recession Deepens: biggest unemployment jump in 22 years.

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As if a student would consider doing work for $5-7.
Highschool students would.

I worked for a couple of years before I graduated.

Let's not forget about students working during the summer waiting for the fall semester to start....or students waiting to start their Post Graduate work after receiving their BA or BS degrees.
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Re: Recession Deepens: biggest unemployment jump in 22 years.

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Highschool students would.

I worked for a couple of years before I graduated.

Let's not forget about students working during the summer waiting for the fall semester to start....or students waiting to start their Post Graduate work after receiving their BA or BS degrees.
not anymore.
I hire about 20 teens for summer help every year.
Over the past few years it has become increasingly difficult to find 20 kids to work for $6.50 (all they do is hand assembly, all day work - no weekends)
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Re: Recession Deepens: biggest unemployment jump in 22 years.

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not anymore.
I hire about 20 teens for summer help every year.
Over the past few years it has become increasingly difficult to find 20 kids to work for $6.50 (all they do is hand assembly, all day work - no weekends)
We haven't bothered asking teens to actually work around our place for quite some time. Seems that after the first day they always found some excuse for not returning. Ex-cons have long been our best source of casual labor.
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Re: Recession Deepens: biggest unemployment jump in 22 years.

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If you ever took a close look at how US GDP and other statistical data is calculated for political feel-good purposes you'd never again trust government numbers. 50k household samplings to determine unemployment for a work force of 135M wouldn't even qualify as a primary test market in the private sector.
that is all true but I think the point is, the "misery index” gdp indicators etc. and the like is okay when measuring against a republican to make a point, but then becomes not quite so juicy when its measured against a dem OR vis versa depending on who is in office etc.
I know the numbers are all BS, that’s not the point, so lets not play games. Either they are all the time or they are not.
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Re: Recession Deepens: biggest unemployment jump in 22 years.

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that is all true but I think the point is, the "misery index” gdp indicators etc. and the like is okay when measuring against a republican to make a point, but then becomes not quite so juicy when its measured against a dem OR vis versa depending on who is in office etc.
I know the numbers are all BS, that’s not the point, so lets not play games. Either they are all the time or they are not.
I certainly made no partisanship statement, and anyone who has read my posts understands I'm a fiscal conservative regardless of which sector of our one party political system holds office. I was as vocal about the Johnson and Nixon administration failures as I am about those of current administration.
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Re: Recession Deepens: biggest unemployment jump in 22 years.

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not anymore.
I hire about 20 teens for summer help every year.
Over the past few years it has become increasingly difficult to find 20 kids to work for $6.50 (all they do is hand assembly, all day work - no weekends)
I think what you mean is..........it's hard to find anyone willing to work.
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I think what you mean is..........it's hard to find anyone willing to work.
Ex-cons: A source of cheap labor even more desperate than illegal immigrants. With the highest per-capita incarceration rates in the developed world, the US has one in or near your neighborhood.
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Re: Recession Deepens: biggest unemployment jump in 22 years.

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Ohhhh......so this is an even bigger job loss then the first year of the Bush Administration. I thought we lost 3 million jobs then.

Boy......the Dems don't play around once they take charge. 16 months after they took back Congress they've been able to cause a "Recession" and nearly double the price of gas......oh and almost totally collapse the housing market.

I wonder what they have in mind for an encore.

By the way, didn't they promise that once they took back Congress our troubles would be over?

Looks like our troubles are just beginning.

Keep working on that Global Warming bill Democrats..........to hell with the economy.
Wha ? Meh ? eh ? The dems are the baddies ?
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Re: Recession Deepens: biggest unemployment jump in 22 years.

Lets see from my observation about 5 million jobs lost in the same 5 years, oil up over 300%, food up 200% production down unemployment at record levels homes the staple of the family unit removed at a record rate and the dollar ever losing value as we speak. I don't know where it ends but when my kids go hungry i will be a raving lunatic like the rest of the world. I would point out to those with money ...watch out your on the Hit list and that isn't for music. When the back of the common man is broken your false world will be attacked, also you are cutting the legs from your own support, when we go your not far behind.
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Re: Recession Deepens: biggest unemployment jump in 22 years.

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not anymore.
I hire about 20 teens for summer help every year.
Over the past few years it has become increasingly difficult to find 20 kids to work for $6.50 (all they do is hand assembly, all day work - no weekends)
Ask yourself would you work for that? 6.50 might have been good ten years ago but barely buys the gas to get there, would you work for that in todays economy?
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Re: Recession Deepens: biggest unemployment jump in 22 years.

When I was 15 I caddied at a country club for almost 5 dollars an hour. That was in 1977.

Sure, carrying 2 bags for 18 holes, pulling all the pins, raking all the traps and looking for golf balls in the woods for the crappy golfers was a lot of work, but it was very good money for a 15 year old kid.

In 2008, 6.50 an hour is a joke. A pathetic joke. After taxes, 6.50 an hours will barely buy a gallon of gas.
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Re: Recession Deepens: biggest unemployment jump in 22 years.

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When I was 15 I caddied at a country club for almost 5 dollars an hour. That was in 1977.

Sure, carrying 2 bags for 18 holes, pulling all the pins, raking all the traps and looking for golf balls in the woods for the crappy golfers was a lot of work, but it was very good money for a 15 year old kid.

In 2008, 6.50 an hour is a joke. A pathetic joke. After taxes, 6.50 an hours will barely buy a gallon of gas.
That's what happens when a country is governed by leadership stressing fiscal irresponsibility and self-destructive foreign policy. Looked at the price of corn lately?
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Re: Recession Deepens: biggest unemployment jump in 22 years.

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That's what happens when a country is governed by leadership stressing fiscal irresponsibility and self-destructive foreign policy. Looked at the price of corn lately?
Yes, I have.

NEW YORK (Reuters) - Record corn prices pushed up by flooding in the Midwest have forced five small to mid-sized U.S. ethanol plants to shut and output of the biofuel could be slowed for months, a Citi research note said on Friday.

Ethanol plants shut on record corn price: Citi | Deals | Regulatory News | Reuters

Ethanol is very inefficient and that is why it was pushed on us. The powers that be know that Ethanol can never even come close to competing with gasoline, so that is why it was crammed down our throats. Biodiesel is the way to go, but the corporations haven't finished buying up all the US farm land yet, so we will have to wait until they are finished before any renewable transportation fuel will be allowed to be mass produced.

It is all a sick and twisted game to bring down the US economy and to raise the economies of developing nations. Eventually we will be closer in economic strength and then it will be easier to merge us into a world government.

Both parties have sold out the American people. Until the sheeple admit this simple fact, nothing will improve. In fact, things are likely to get much, much worse.

The lies told to the people about NAFTA are now finally recognized as lies.

As the politicians start talking about changing NAFTA, it is too late for millions of people who have been harmed by this trade agreement.

With agribusiness corporations posting record highs (like Cargill, ADM saw profits soar from $363 million in 2006 to $517 million for 2007)

The food crisis is here to stay. The World Bank reports an 181% increase in wheat prices over the 36 months prior to February 2008, and overall global food prices registering an 83% rise. It predicts that food crop prices will remain high in 2008 and 2009 and then begin to decline, but maintain levels far above 2004 prices through 2015. World Bank President Robert Zoellick warns the food crisis could push 100 million people worldwide into deeper poverty.

COVER 6

Free trade. What a joke.

While the people in the US, Canada and Mexico have all been harmed by NAFTA, the agri-corporations have made out like bandits.

Well, I guess there is nothing really new about the American sheeple voting for scumbags who don't give a flying fuck about the people.

Hey, I have an idea. Let's keep voting these same morons into office, then things will get better.

Jeesh.
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