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He got canned, eventually and for reasons other than moral turpitude. The example I know, did not make the press.
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He got canned, eventually and for reasons other than moral turpitude. The example I know, did not make the press.



Point is, he got canned and NOT for morals. And it happens more often than you would think though not as often as it should.

The only job I can think of that's secure is Pope.
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Point is, he got canned and NOT for morals. And it happens more often than you would think though not as often as it should.

The only job I can think of that's secure is Pope.
Hey, everybody dies...

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indeed. can't think of any other way to 86 a Pope.
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indeed. can't think of any other way to 86 a Pope.
That's interesting, though.

What if a Pope ended up being a complete fuck-up? What if he had a gambling problem, or enjoyed the company of amorous nuns?

I'd have to believe there's a way to give one the boot; it just hasn't happened yet...
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That's interesting, though.

What if a Pope ended up being a complete fuck-up? What if he had a gambling problem, or enjoyed the company of amorous nuns?

I'd have to believe there's a way to give one the boot; it just hasn't happened yet...


I'm no expert but I really don't think there is a mechanism. Generally speaking, they're pretty boxed out of normal morals issues (apart from diddling kids).

OK I looked and, fuck me, its possible !

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A Pope can be anathematized by an Ecumenical Council. Pope Honorius was anathematized by the 6th Ecumenical Council because - out of negligence? - he did not condemn the heresis of Monothelism but in his capacity as Pope of Rome he accepted in a letter to the Patriarch of Constantinople the heresis. The anathema was confirmed also by Pope Leo II.
OK, so NOBODY is safe !

Besides Robert Mugabe (may God damn him).
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Unless you are employed by some government systems such as the Postal Service, IRS, Law Enforcement etc. - NO job is secure.
Especially if you are working for a publicly held company, with a single meeting your whole line of work can be eliminated to try and bolster stock prices.

In 20 plus years of business, and as a bloke who runs a company - I can safely say the VAST majority of employees at all levels know very little about the true financial shape of the company they work for, and have no idea of long term ideas and changes that will affect their job - until right up to when the changes are made.
Well sure, but if you have skills that are in demand then you can always get a job with someone else. The pharmaceutical companies are volitile, but there is also always someone hiring (and even when they have layoffs, it generally isn't the pathologists that are going).
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Unless you are employed by some government systems such as the Postal Service, IRS, Law Enforcement etc. - NO job is secure.
Especially if you are working for a publicly held company, with a single meeting your whole line of work can be eliminated to try and bolster stock prices.

In 20 plus years of business, and as a bloke who runs a company - I can safely say the VAST majority of employees at all levels know very little about the true financial shape of the company they work for, and have no idea of long term ideas and changes that will affect their job - until right up to when the changes are made.
Ain't that the truth. My brother got laid off after a new COO was hired, and outsourced all of their production jobs. He had been with the company for 15 years. And that was after a long project cycle working 7 days a week for almost a year. You put in your blood sweat and tear into a company thinking you are more than just a tax id, and then bang, you're out of a job.
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Mine is secure. I do my job well, and I dont get overpaid. It would cost too much to replace me. And my skills are in demand elsewhere, plus I have other skills and so could switch careers. Im also perfectly willing to work at McD if I had to.
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Re: How Secure Is Your Job?

As long as people keep throwing darts and drinking, mine's secure. I just got a raise for assuming some of the owner/manager's responsibilities to help him out. Of course, it doesn't hurt that I'm seeing him!
But, if the bar business goes belly up, I can always get a job in nursing again. I hope it never come down to that because I swore I was finished with it forever.
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Re: How Secure Is Your Job?

The company I work for has been posting excellent profit numbers but we just had a layoff on 6/30 (last day of the quarter) and one of my coworkers lost her job along with 700 others nationwide. I just received my yearly review, did well, and got the highest possible merit raise for his year. Unfortunately that highest possible raise was lowered from the 5% allowed last year to 3%.

Like most people, my job could be eliminated with the stroke of a pen on a financial report tomorrow. And in fact it is the avowed intention of the company I work for to eliminate or offshore the jobs of most of the people I work with so I always have an eye out for a new job. Hopefully I will be able to see my own layoff coming and jump ship first. It's how I ended up with this company to begin with.
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indeed. can't think of any other way to 86 a Pope.
hey, john pal buddy.,..reform the vatican bank at your own risk.
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My job is pretty secure in that I fill a niche need. Ecology and environmental concerns don't disappear, add to that I am a 4 tool player in my field and there are folks in my dept. that make more than I do, I feel pretty secure. That’s not to say of course a sea change cannot appear, but the events in other regions of my co. globally etc. point to an influx and capitalization of my type of worker rather than shedding of such. They have been moving that way for years by not replacing workers who left through the years in those slots.
In short, I do the jobs of folks who are degreed professionals and in a global co. with a global product that is constantly growing and always will.

I was told flat out that if I finish my degree, and certify that that would put me in jeopardy as they would have to reimburse me for such.
Anyone familiar with the virtues or not re: differences between salaried ( or as we say exempt and non exempt employees) or non salaried employees will understand my point.
I earn almost as much as these folks but in a different way, there fore I am deemed “value added” as opposed to one of those that’s seen as value consuming, when you work in a dept. that is not a profit center.
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As long as people keep throwing darts and drinking, mine's secure. I just got a raise for assuming some of the owner/manager's responsibilities to help him out. Of course, it doesn't hurt that I'm seeing him!
But, if the bar business goes belly up, I can always get a job in nursing again. I hope it never come down to that because I swore I was finished with it forever.
Gods, but we need good nurses, though. Now theres a job you can take anywhere. (my mom's an RN)
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Gods, but we need good nurses, though. Now theres a job you can take anywhere. (my mom's an RN)
Big time...just keep the consultants away from the hospital administrators so that no more downsizing (called the euphemism "resizing" for effective marketing purposes) takes place.
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