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Old 02-20-2009
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Tracking Device on Every American Car....

The O administration will not pursue the mileage tax which would involve putting a tracking device on all of our cars.

Transportation agency: Obama will not pursue mileage tax - CNN.com

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The idea -- which involves tracking drivers through Global Positioning System (GPS) units in their cars -- is gaining support in some states as a way of making up for a shortfall in highway funding. Oregon carried out a pilot program and deemed it "successful."
I am glad to hear this will not happen--at least for now.. And I post this only to emphasize the mind set of some in high places in America. Still, I am mortified that a violation of our rights on such a massive scale even enters the minds of our leaders.

And people were worried about having their phones tapped.......
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Re: Tracking Device on Every American Car....

I hate to say I told you so............but........

These Obama folks will only get away with what we let them get away with.

The trick is catching them in the act before it's too late.
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Re: Tracking Device on Every American Car....

Well this has got to be one of the dumbest ideas I have ever heard from a cabinet member in a long time....well except spending $1 trillion.
Like I want a freaking tracking device on my car that sends data to the government!!
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Re: Tracking Device on Every American Car....

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I hate to say I told you so............but........

These Obama folks will only get away with what we let them get away with.

The trick is catching them in the act before it's too late.
You are aware he is a Republican...right?
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Re: Tracking Device on Every American Car....

The idea is simply Orwellian....scary. glad to see it die a quick death. Rest assured some useful idiot will resurrect the idea again in a few months.....idiots!
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You are aware he is a Republican...right?

And the significance of that in a government that is on the verge of collapse with an inexperienced CEO who doesn't mind overreaching is...............
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Old 02-20-2009
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Re: Tracking Device on Every American Car....

Eh. The less money collected by fuel taxes, the more likely a change to a different tax system. If I had to guess the President isn't shelving the idea for privacy concerns, but rather this would equate to raising taxes on fuel efficient vehicles.

But I'm not even sure the concerns should be that great.

Obama Nixes plan to tax motorists on mileage

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Privacy concerns are based more on perception than any actual risk, Atkinson said. The satellite information would be beamed one way to the car and driving information would be contained within the device on the car, with the amount of the tax due the only information that's downloaded, he said.
If there is no transmitter in the vehicle and only generic information is stored... why not do it? If you drive less, pay less taxes.
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I hate to say I told you so............but........

These Obama folks will only get away with what we let them get away with.

The trick is catching them in the act before it's too late.
That's every presidency in the modern era.
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Eh. The less money collected by fuel taxes, the more likely a change to a different tax system. If I had to guess the President isn't shelving the idea for privacy concerns, but rather this would equate to raising taxes on fuel efficient vehicles.

But I'm not even sure the concerns should be that great.

Obama Nixes plan to tax motorists on mileage



If there is no transmitter in the vehicle and only generic information is stored... why not do it? If you drive less, pay less taxes.

And what bank of information about us can you name that is NOT accessible by some method be it hacking or subpoena? Take your time.
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And what bank of information about us can you name that is NOT accessible by some method be it hacking or subpoena? Take your time.
I don't pretend the information couldn't be obtained, but I also don't pretend some satellite can or will be tracking where I drive. If a little box in your car can only tell what kind of road you drove on since your last fill, and the receiver at the gas station only receives an amount of money you owe, and then that information is erased and you start over for the next tank of gas... who cares.
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Re: Tracking Device on Every American Car....

It would be a whole lot easier to collect a tax of $3/gallon on gasoline. This would raise the price of gas and force Americans to conserve. It would also impact those who drive the most miles most heavily. It would push people toward buying more fuel-efficient vehicles, and it would not require any new tracking hardware and no additional bureaucracy.
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It would be a whole lot easier to collect a tax of $3/gallon on gasoline. This would raise the price of gas and force Americans to conserve. It would also impact those who drive the most miles most heavily. It would push people toward buying more fuel-efficient vehicles, and it would not require any new tracking hardware and no additional bureaucracy.
It would hurt the poor. The rich don't care about gas prices, but for the poor, gas prices can mean the difference between the powdered and the paste-style Kraft macaroni and cheese.

Sure, punish the lower classes to save the environment. How typical...
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Re: Tracking Device on Every American Car....

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It would be a whole lot easier to collect a tax of $3/gallon on gasoline. This would raise the price of gas and force Americans to conserve. It would also impact those who drive the most miles most heavily. It would push people toward buying more fuel-efficient vehicles, and it would not require any new tracking hardware and no additional bureaucracy.
How about no tax on gasoline at all???
I know - that would just be insane wouldn't it?
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Re: Tracking Device on Every American Car....

i would have to quit i drove 36k last year in 9 months , i would be screwed , this year i am already at 10 K

fucking stupid idea
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i would have to quit i drove 36k last year in 9 months , i would be screwed , this year i am already at 10 K

fucking stupid idea
Not to mention that my drivers log 1000's of miles every month - but then again, these types would think making us big bad business people pay more in taxes is "righteous dude!"
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