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Old 03-06-2009
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Re: Obama's Radicalism Is Killing the Dow

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Never mind all that. When you are ready to talk about the topic I will respond.
I believe you have already responded twice.
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Old 03-06-2009
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Re: Obama's Radicalism Is Killing the Dow

useless, unproductive despair? from conservatives? and inability to suggest any alternatives or meaningful plans for change? conservatives, without solutions for the problems they've spent the last eight years inflicting on the rest of us? and offering nothing but negativity and blame (for an administration hardly in office more than a month, when, after bush let 911 happen, all i heard from conservatives was, "oh, he's only been in office since january, what do you expect"?)

surely my eyes deceive me. of course conservatives wouldn't do that to us. no way.
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Old 03-06-2009
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Re: Obama's Radicalism Is Killing the Dow

This is by no way scientific, but everytime Obama goes on TV to talk about the economy, the Dow slides. This morning, it was up, Obama spoke, the Down went down. Right now it is only down a little, but it seems to me, every time. Maybe Obama should stop the cheerleading the American people, and spend more time talking to the people in Congress. After all, we are a representative republic, and elected those 535 people to bid our affairs for us. No matter how much Obama wants me to vote or feel on a project/bill, it is up to the people we elected to take action, not me.
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Re: Obama's Radicalism Is Killing the Dow

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Excuse me! I was told that cut & paste was considered spamming.Or is that just for us peons and the administration is above the law like the Bushies?


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Besides, only RW nuts give a shit about whether policies that are good for the country hurt the Dow. I have some money in stocks , but prefer doing what is right instead of crying in my beer. The fact , however, is that you dont really know that it is O's policies. It is more likely due to the freefall in economic activity caused by the Bushidiot. Pundits make this shit up about what effected the market after whatever happens has happened.
This is just fucking priceless. You really do need to wrap your head around the fact that Bush is now a non-issue. He's not the President, your Golden Boy is, and he's continuing to fuck things up. You whine about Bush in almost every thread you post in. It makes you look silly and unoriginal.

Not that libs are big on original thought...

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BTW- I am happily awaiting the bottom so I can by more good stocks at low prices because some morons think like this writer .
On the local news this morning, it was reported that you can buy a share of GM for less than a gallon of gas.

Time to put your busboy money to work, Knute...
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Old 03-06-2009
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Re: Obama's Radicalism Is Killing the Dow

Re Imperator's article:

Do not forget !!!! The position we're in was developed by 8 years of activity by George Bush and the "haves and have more" group.

Obama's plan may not work BUT would you prefer a total meltdown immediately or take a shot at a fix ?

Remember......"No good deed goes unpunished"

It seems that Republicans after 8 years of screwing the American Public now want to lay the blame for resulting paternity on a guy who has had only 46 days to even think about it.
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Re: Obama's Radicalism Is Killing the Dow

Looks like the Dow will hit the 6400 mark or so sometime soon, i think that was where i predicted it would end last week.

I don't think its so much a case of radicalisation that's hurting the Dow or markets in general but the fact that everything Obama seems to be putting forward has nothing to do with the issues of bank solvency, credit, debt etc which are effecting the market.

This is not a traditional economic crisis, even if we weren't in a reccession, the problems would still exist.
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You really do need to wrap your head around the fact that Bush is now a non-issue. He's not the President, your Golden Boy is, and he's continuing to fuck things up. You whine about Bush in almost every thread you post in. It makes you look silly and unoriginal.
just can't wait to put bush in the rearview mirror, can you? can't say i blame you. bush and his administration have been a truly disgusting blight on this country, a blight inflicted on us solely by the republican party and the bankrupt ideology of conservatism, and i can't say i blame you for wanting to put him in the past. but since we're currently trying to fix an economic crisis created by him and the conservatives, and since this problem is going to take a long time to fix, if it can be fixed at all, bush and the disaster he's been for the country is just going to continue to be an issue for years to come. it's sad but true. believe me, no one would like it more than me if bush had never come within miles of the white house but he did, he and his supporters pretty much trashed the country, and we are where we are now. bush is gonna keep being a big deal, and if the conservatives dont like it maybe they shouldn't have let him fuck up so extraordinarily badly.
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Re: Obama's Radicalism Is Killing the Dow

I couldn't ask more of you Tia...you constantly keep bringing up Bush, you keep him the topic of discussion even after a month of Obama in office.
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I couldn't ask more of you Tia...you constantly keep bringing up Bush, you keep him the topic of discussion even after a month of Obama in office.
dude. bush caused this problem. like i say, he's going to be relevant for years to come.

really, what's at issue is conservatism. conservatives continue to insist tax cuts and elimination of the public sector will fix this problem, even when that's what bush did and it CAUSED the problem, it didn't fix it.

so bush also continues to be relevant in that the conservatives are continuing to try and force us to accept a failed and disastrous ideology that he spent eight years pimping out. conservatism was tried in the bush administration and it failed. it failed. and yet people are still trying to force it on us, for reasons that are inexplicable to me.
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plus there's the fact that obama is now to blame for everything that happens on the stock market, when bush had a honeymoon until at least september, when he let 911 happen and got a free pass for that. so why don't the rules that were set during the bush administration apply to obama?
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Re: Obama's Radicalism Is Killing the Dow

Oh hey i'm not stopping you, the more you keep talking about Bush the happier i am. Why should i make him the issue when you'll gladly do it for me?
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Looks like the Dow will hit the 6400 mark or so sometime soon, i think that was where i predicted it would end last week.
Let's get out the Ouija Board and figure out where it will end up next week!

I've been working on this theory that the DIJA is predictable by using patterns and sequences from the irrational number pi. Er, wait, that might have been a movie.

Scratch that. I think the DIJA has a lot to do with how the Cubs play and what kind of news is going on with them. Seems to me that this huge slide started right around the time the Cubs were getting pantsed by the Dodgers in last year's playoffs. And, the slide continued, representing the misery of Cubs fans throughout the winter. Of course, now the news is piling in, so it's up and down these last couple of weeks, but mostly down because we're sad.

For instance, it was looking up for a period of time last week, but then boom, new acquisition Milton Bradley experienced some muscle soreness and plop, down she goes. Then, the Cubs rattled off a few nice wins late last week, and we saw a little momentum, but when Carlos Marmol announced he'd be playing in the World Baseball Classic, the market took a pretty big nosedive at the beginning of this week. Since then, it's been mildly declining because, while there are no more injuries or worrisome announcements, the Cubs have lost several games over the last several days, including a sub-par split-squad effort against the White Sox in Las Vegas.

Keep an eye on how Jeff Samardzija does over the weekend. If his fastball has good movement on it and he moves into the lead for the fifth starter spot, I'd say we can expect a bit of a turnaround. But, if he struggles, leaving the door open for Sean Marshall, I'd say that you can bet we're going to see market losses next week, as the Dow doesn't like left handed pitchers.
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Re: Obama's Radicalism Is Killing the Dow

Nah i don't really care about next week, i just wanted a good prediction to come true.

Let the suffering continue...
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Re: Obama's Radicalism Is Killing the Dow

The Dow is only symptomatic.
We are in the middle of a system-wide failure....and it is not that close to bottom in my opinion.
For what I am seeing, March will also be a high layoff month.
Also I am seeing many companies reducing hours. Manufacturing especially. 32 work weeks may become a norm for some...which is getting a 20% cut in pay.
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Re: Obama's Radicalism Is Killing the Dow

Still need something to be done about the actual problem we face...
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