I'm not familiar with Krugman, but it stands to reason that you should generally trust no one who is in the public eye, and always look to verify their claims. This is especially true of politicians, or anyone who shows even the slightest political leaning.

Well, basically, there's two schools of economics, the Keynesians and the Austrian School, with variations of the two (the third, the Marxists being pretty much discredited and left on the "ash heap of history"). Oddly, Krugman often talks like a Marxist.

Friedman's my man, as he evolved from a Keynesian to a Free Market Libertarian as obvious facts and life experience guided him. He didn't have a dog in social issues, strictly economic.

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*greets Swoop187 with a breakfeast croissant*

good morning Swoop187, ahoy!

if what ye predict be true, then signs be good that the democratic party shall retain power in the white house ,aye?

also, mr. obama be doin' all he can to cut taxes, though perhaps not at the rate that would bring mirth and glee to your eyes....but he be doin' his best, me friend.

Tax cuts and incentives for families, individuals and small businesses provided by the 2009 economic stimulus package

*salutes*

- MeadHallPirate

If 13 bucks a week doesn't turn this thing around, nothing will.

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Obama just spend 1 trillion [stimulus], and has committed to another 2.5 trillion to the stimulus, and this is before health-care which will be another 1.5-2 billion when its all said and done. How is a president who spends 5 trillion dollars going to cut taxes??????

Sure Obama will cut taxes for those who make less then $30,000 a year, but then he will raise taxes on the "wealthy," THAT DOES ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to stimulate the economy though BECAUSE those folks making 30k a year are living paycheck to paycheck and AREN'T spending money liberally.

Furthermore tax hikes on the rich will just make the "rich" spend less which will HURT the economy. Rich people are rich for a reason.. Mostly because they know how to handle finances responsibly.... This means the less you have, the less you spend.

I have no idea why the left doesn't comprehend this.

This is a little OT but ...

Do you realize hardworking people are being asked to make sacrifices for those who refuse to work????

How about this? If you don't work you get NOTHING?

Yea that will save a lot of money.

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there are far more than two schools of thought when it comes to economics and every single one has merit.

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*pops his head back into Swoop187's porthole fer a final question*

matey, imma not debatin' yer numbers, but can ye source whar congress has spent 3.5 trillion dollars? thats not a figure i've yet heard.

also, in the source i linked and quoted, i saw tax deductions goin' to all kinds 'o folks, not just poor peoples. you can quibble with the amount, me friend, but be this not "lowering taxes"?

secondly, as far as i'm aware, nothing has been done yet regardin' health care...its just proposals and such. thar has been no money spent, nor has thar been any monies committed.

aye, and finally...what be so terrible about raisin' taxes on them families that bring in a quarter million dollars per year? what mr. Obama be proposin' isn't even what them folks paid under the glorious Ronald Reagan's term. its less.

*heads off to work*

- MeadHallPirate

Yeah, I forgot about the Underwear Index.

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chicago school, carnegie school, swedish school to name a few...

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The stimulus was for 3.5 trillion, Obama has already spend about a trillion of it. I don't know if they are going to continue with the program and spend more but 3.5 was "set aside" for this stimulus.

Health-care hasn't been passed yet BUT it will because the liberals can pass it with out a doubt. So your looking at another trillion minimum there.

All that costs money, tax money which leaves people with less money to spend on other shit, shit thats manufactured by people who work for a paycheck.

When you spend trillions of dollars WE ALL pay for it....

Furthermore taxing people MORE then anyone else for making money is absolutely 100% wrong.

I don't care if they have more then you or I do or if they can afford it... its absolutely WRONG!

Now if liberals want to pay more in taxes then so be it, no one is stopping them but the fact is most LIBERALS are the fucking beggars who want something for nothing.

Now, if liberals didn't make it their policy to support the lazy for votes then I might be able to use my heart here but motherfuckers who do nothing in my book get nothing in return.

There is no reward for being lazy and all this spending is FOR THE LAZY.

These are fucking entitlements for those WHO DON'T WANT TO WORK BECAUSE LIBERALS PAY THEM VIA ENTITLEMENTS FOR THEIR VOTES.

It's not right!!!!

The people who do work SHOULD NOT have to take care of those who refuse to or don't feel like it because they're satisfied with the table scraps liberals throw them.

I mean do you have a problem with the fact we are forced to take care of the lazy because liberals say so??????

THe liberals are in power because they exploited the poor by promising them MORE free shit for votes. Now the liberals are trying to make good on their promise by FORCING "evil" capitalists to PAY for their promises.

IN other words the liberals are forcing republicans to payoff their entitlement promises.

FUCK THAT...

I say feed these lazy fucks to lions for entertainment and shock value.

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*reads Swoop187's latest salvo and ponders*

yarrr!

a lotta ground ye covered thar, mate.

before i answer, thar be a question i been turnin' o'er in me head when i read yer posts...

when ye say "liberal", do ye mean folks who align themselves more closely with the democratic party?

i just wanted to clear that point up whilst i be thinkin' 'o the proper response fer ya.

*bows*

and now i really must be headin' off to work.

- MeadHallPirate

Anyone who disagrees with Swoop = liberal, fucking liberal, stupid liberal, etc.

When I say "liberal" I mean progressive "new age" far left liberal. You know the Pelosi type.

I don't know if there is such thing as a true "democrat" anymore. I think the democrats are closer to the republicans then they are the leftist moonbat progressives.

So no, I'm not talking about democrats, I'm talking about progressive liberals.

I'm talking about socialists who align and cloak them selves with the democrats.. Better yet those assholes who hijacked the democratic party.

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I, too, distrust almost all politicians. That said, I believe that your cause and effect are reversed in regards to Schiff. He believes that the economy is headed deeper into the shitter because those in D.C. are making terrible decisions; therefore, he is running for the Senate.

ahhhhhhhhh or so he says.

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