A sure way to economic expansion is to cut taxes and government. Both have gotton WAY out of control and both Democrats and Republicans are to blame. In fact that might be the only way now. Obama promised today he was going to fix this economy but at the same time he is hell bent on passing a healthcare bill that will without a doubt be the most economicly destructive legislation in US history. Uemployment is 10.2% now but if this healthcare bill passes there is no telling what it will get to and stay there. Why won't they cut the Goddamm taxes and spending for God sake!

Bureaucrats and politicians measure success in the size of budgets and in dollars spent advancing their pet programs. That's why they can't cut costs and reduce government.

And don't forget Cap and Trade is in the works too.

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"You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity."

Whew! that's too much for my brain right now but you're right.

if these two bills pass and are not immediately struckdown bu the SCOTUS, NSA should order the Pentagon to seize Congress and the president for failure to uphold the Constitution and being domestic enemies. Thats how serious this is.

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Jesus loves you, allah wants you dead

"Every government interference in the economy consists of giving an unearned benefit, extorted by force, to some men at the expense of others."

Ayn Rand

Bingo

If there is any single piece of evidence that proves the left-wing Dems who currently run the country are out of touch with reality, it is the Cap and Trade bill. It boggles the mind that they are trying to slam this through at the bottom of a recession.

They might as well just hand the congress over to the GOP now if they go on like this.

Wow! can they do that? I think If Obama signs that bill into law that would be the most irresponsible thing any president has ever done IMO.

Frankly, I don't think the NSA is that patriotic. They love their perks as much as any federal agency.

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Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys. ---P. J. O'Rourke

ahoyyyyy Sinebar, me rancorous friend!

tell me, me hearty...if the government were to cut federal spendin', would ye advocate cuttin' the monies in yer state?

tell me, me conservative swabby...has the US government been spendin' monies in yer fine state?

yea, and also, whilst i can see the reasonin' behind cuttin' government spendin' when the bust-blighted populace needs it the most (i don't agree with this point 'o view, but i can understand why folks might think so), is now the time to deny the fiscally distressed citizens 'o the united states the balm 'o government spendin'?

*bows*

- MeadHallPirate

*bows*

You're somewhat of an economist, which stimulates the economy more, government spending or tax cuts?

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Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys. ---P. J. O'Rourke

A good number of American Citizens LIKE the money that the government sends to them or their state or county.

Who is the Biggest Employer in the country? Who?

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Government Should Fear the People That Voted Them In!!

New Government=one that the President likes a GOP idea but then the Staff puts that Idea in a very DEEP HOLE.

Read HR143 get enlightment.

The Revolution Will not be Televised

Here's a good article on this topic.

Europes Lesson: Overspending Is Not The Answer

BO can't cut taxes. That would be too GWB for him to do that. He would piss off too many of the far left in his party. The whole idea of cutting taxes and the government dipping into your pocket less is preposterous to many on the left. It is not your money, it's the government's money.

Besides, he has to pay for government run heathScare and tax, err cap & trade somehow.

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"Democracy passes into despotism." - Plato

*bows courteously to Disillusioned_1*

ahoy mate!

i read the article ye linked.

are ye sayin' that things like Tarp, cash fer clunkers, the stimulus, etc, all be the wrong tonic fer what ails our economically ailing nation?

overspendin', by the very nature 'o the term, sounds bad on a intuitive level, aye? its kinda like "overeating" or "oversleeping" or "overdosing"....all them words that have "over" in front 'o them does sound like an evil thing.

i found the graph that linked the future 'o our nation if we keep our entitlement programs intact to be sorta rivetin', though. thats why i been a big supporter 'o cancelin' medicaid, medicare and social security in one fell swoop, yarrRRRR!

*waves*

- MeadHallPirate

*laughs heartily and salutes EagleTed*

matey, imma the furthest thing from an economist...though one 'o the reasons i like to frequent the port city 'o USPO be to read this very part 'o the forum.

imma sorry mate, i cannot answer ye question, fer i don't know what the answer be...but here is me try;

me guess would be that wise government spendin' and/or judicious tax cuts can both stimulate the economy. not to get too wonky, but just as an example - if yer on the wrong end 'o the laffer curve (imma not sure i spelled that right), then tax cuttin' taxes would be unwise.

from me novice point 'o view, cuttin' taxes without makin' aggressive cuts in government spendin' would be comfortable fer a while, but unsustainable.

i tried to make a post on this very topic a year ago, me friend, but it went nowhere. i asked folks what part 'o the government they would cut, so they could rationalize further tax cuts. the only tepid responses i got were things like the DoE and such...small potatoes. the military, SS/Mcare/Mcaid were all untouchable (rampin' down our two wars we were in, expensive items that aren't even part 'o the budget, wasn't even discussed), so we ended back at square 1.

'tis easy to say "lets cut government spending". i never seen it happen, really, in me entire life. i seen it get an uptick durin' democratic administrations...and surge durin' republican administrations. the idear 'o actually cuttin' government spendin' sounds like a fantasy to me, and probably does to most americans. if thats really what us folks want, you'd figure that we'd vote in folks who are willin' to cut spendin' in their own districts/states. the closest thing i seen to a politician who would put this idear to the test with his own state was Governor Marc Sanford.

he was crucified fer it.

by whom?

his own...republican...legistlature.

aye.

- MeadHallPirate