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    What Should We Do!

    It is an article of faith on the left that the right has no (new) ideas…

    Here are some… and they would work


    Confirm that all personal tax rates will remain as they are for the next 5 years.
    (Extend the Bush tax rates)

    Reduce Corporate Tax Rates. We should reduce corporate rates to 25%, which would help business to grow and create jobs.

    Our corporate income tax rate, currently the second highest in the developed world, and must be cut to restore U.S. competitiveness. The corporate tax rate should be set at or below the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development average of 26% to eliminate the incentive for businesses and jobs to move overseas.

    Congress should enact a firm cap on the annual increase in total government spending, limited to inflation plus population growth. Lawmakers should exert all effort to keep overall federal spending to less than 20% of U.S. GDP, and develop a plan to get there in 4 years or less.

    Repeal the health care bill NOW!

    The government should end all the interventions it has made since 2008, starting with abolition of the TARP program. Sell every and all stakes it holds in corporations at once.

    It should then abolish Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae and repeal all U.S. government regulatory measures that interfere with mortgage markets. Congress should also repeal the Sarbanes–Oxley Act, which discriminates against small firms and reduces competition. Companies should be allowed to fail, and laws and regulations should create no expectation of a future bailout.

    Congress must eliminate the insidious practice of earmarking, which corrupts the legislative process.

    Establish a Sunset Date for ALL Federal Regulations. To prevent outdated regulations from being left in place in perpetuity, regulations should, as a matter of routine, include a “sunset” date by which they would expire automatically unless specifically renewed by lawmakers. Such automatic sunset clauses already exist in some cases. Congress should make them the rule, and not the exception… starting now!

    Repeal the new Financial Services Regulations. The regulatory regimes placed in President Obama’s financial regulation bills were a step backward for consumers and the economy, and imposed unnecessary regulatory costs or taxes on American businesses and families. (Credit card rates and the rates of other consumer debt is already rising). Congress should repeal them and adopt market-based solutions in their stead.

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    Re: What Should We Do!

    cutting taxes, well that worked for Bush I And II, now didn't it?
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    Re: What Should We Do!

    I think you have a future in republican politics. You've found a way to make "no ideas" look good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by timj219 View Post
    I think you have a future in republican politics. You've found a way to make "no ideas" look good.
    Credit where credit's due. I think it's the Democrats in congress who've made that possible.
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    Re: What Should We Do!

    What should 'we' do? Well, hey! I'm going to keep getting up every morning and going to work. Just like for the last many years.

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    Re: What Should We Do!

    What do you think of the concept of increasing the tax rates for the duration of our "wars" on abstractions? From one perspective, we would have less foreign entanglements, and, if tax rates on the wealthy are also increased, they would have greater means at their disposal to keep our elected representatives from any more expensive "wars" that require a warfare-state economy rather than a welfare state economy.

    Simplifying our current social safety nets does not require warfare-state economics; and, welfare-state economics can lower our tax burden through greater use of public sector means of production, which require labor and can generate revenue to defray public sector costs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dblack View Post
    Credit where credit's due. I think it's the Democrats in congress who've made that possible.
    I always knew they must be good for something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by danielpalos View Post
    What do you think of the concept of increasing the tax rates for the duration of our "wars" on abstractions? From one perspective, we would have less foreign entanglements, and, if tax rates on the wealthy are also increased, they would have greater means at their disposal to keep our elected representatives from any more expensive "wars" that require a warfare-state economy rather than a welfare state economy.

    Simplifying our current social safety nets does not require warfare-state economics; and, welfare-state economics can lower our tax burden through greater use of public sector means of production, which require labor and can generate revenue to defray public sector costs.
    Excellent post, Daniel
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moonglow View Post
    cutting taxes, well that worked for Bush I And II, now didn't it?
    Cutting taxes and increasing spending doesn't work very well. But cutting taxes and being fiscally responsible works amazingly. Sorry to burst your strawman.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fishjoel View Post
    Cutting taxes and increasing spending doesn't work very well. But cutting taxes and being fiscally responsible works amazingly. Sorry to burst your strawman.
    when did "cutting taxes and being fiscally responsible work"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by goober View Post
    when did "cutting taxes and being fiscally responsible work"?
    1994.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tsquare View Post
    It is an article of faith on the left that the right has no (new) ideas…

    Here are some… and they would work


    Confirm that all personal tax rates will remain as they are for the next 5 years.
    (Extend the Bush tax rates)

    Reduce Corporate Tax Rates. We should reduce corporate rates to 25%, which would help business to grow and create jobs.

    Our corporate income tax rate, currently the second highest in the developed world, and must be cut to restore U.S. competitiveness. The corporate tax rate should be set at or below the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development average of 26% to eliminate the incentive for businesses and jobs to move overseas.
    While I understand where you are coming from I think we have to focus on balancing the budget first. Now, I'm not denying that these actions would help stimulate the economy. I just am not sure about implementing them until we have spending and the deficit under control.

    Quote Originally Posted by tsquare View Post
    Congress should enact a firm cap on the annual increase in total government spending, limited to inflation plus population growth. Lawmakers should exert all effort to keep overall federal spending to less than 20% of U.S. GDP, and develop a plan to get there in 4 years or less.
    I'd go further. I don't just want spending to freeze, I want it to decrease. Spending cuts in any and all areas of government. I wouldn't leave hardly any possibility for spending cuts off the table.

    Quote Originally Posted by tsquare View Post
    Repeal the health care bill NOW!
    I completely agree!

    Quote Originally Posted by tsquare View Post
    The government should end all the interventions it has made since 2008, starting with abolition of the TARP program. Sell every and all stakes it holds in corporations at once.

    It should then abolish Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae and repeal all U.S. government regulatory measures that interfere with mortgage markets. Congress should also repeal the Sarbanes–Oxley Act, which discriminates against small firms and reduces competition. Companies should be allowed to fail, and laws and regulations should create no expectation of a future bailout.
    I also agree with this.

    Quote Originally Posted by tsquare View Post
    Congress must eliminate the insidious practice of earmarking, which corrupts the legislative process.
    And I agree with this.

    Quote Originally Posted by tsquare View Post
    Establish a Sunset Date for ALL Federal Regulations. To prevent outdated regulations from being left in place in perpetuity, regulations should, as a matter of routine, include a “sunset” date by which they would expire automatically unless specifically renewed by lawmakers. Such automatic sunset clauses already exist in some cases. Congress should make them the rule, and not the exception… starting now!
    Excellent idea!

    Quote Originally Posted by tsquare View Post
    Repeal the new Financial Services Regulations. The regulatory regimes placed in President Obama’s financial regulation bills were a step backward for consumers and the economy, and imposed unnecessary regulatory costs or taxes on American businesses and families. (Credit card rates and the rates of other consumer debt is already rising). Congress should repeal them and adopt market-based solutions in their stead.
    Agreed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fishjoel View Post
    being fiscally responsible works amazingly
    Show me the fiscal responsibility first and I'll go along with tax cuts later. I won't hold my breath.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lost Time View Post
    1994.
    taxes were increased in 1994, it's what "fiscally responsible" means

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    Quote Originally Posted by goober View Post
    taxes were increased in 1994, it's what "fiscally responsible" means

    Doesn't matter how high taxes are if spending isn't in check. You could have 100% taxes and still be short on money the way our government operates.

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