Thread: The United States is a Low Tax Country

Originally Posted by 9aces

Human beings are not wired for the protection of the whole species, they are wired to protect their family groupings. Given a choice of saving your family group or provide for their own, 99.999% of humanity will provide for their own and most of those will help you into the grave if they think it will give them more.

Yes, you do live in a black and white world, you're just trying to hide from it. Which works for a while, but sooner or later reality will find you.

Reality always wins in the end.

Whatever justification you need for being selfish and greedy.

Originally Posted by 9aces

Except of course for the fact the budget was never balanced. Got close once in 2000 though.

It's hilarious when you try to sneak in your "alternative reality game" thinking

Are you satirizing right wing idiots, or do you really believe that crap?

Originally Posted by Rude Boy

Whatever justification you need for being selfish and greedy.

At the core, we are all "selfish and greedy".

If you need my help, unless my children are fed first, you will starve.

You would do the same.

Originally Posted by goober

It's hilarious when you try to sneak in your "alternative reality game" thinking

Are you satirizing right wing idiots, or do you really believe that crap?

I leave alternate reality to you.

I proved it. As has been posted many, many times, which you have yet once to be able to disprove.

Originally Posted by Rude Boy

Whatever justification you need for being selfish and greedy.

I am honest about my degree of self-interest. You are not.

If you can't even be honest with yourself, what have you got?

Originally Posted by Commodore

I wonder if people really think they are best served by handing over as much of their money as possible to people with such poor judgement that they, as married, middle-aged men, send pictures of their genitals to co-eds, or if they are just so subconsciously afraid of post-mortal judgement that they feel the need hand out as much as humanly possible, regardless of effectiveness and impact.

Thank you for this valuable insight into the mental processes of TEA Party philosophers. Many people don't think that paying federal income tax is "handing over money" as the process is a legal one dependent on elected representatives under our Constitution, a bit more structured a process than just "handing over money." I hope they can see now that this is a mere distinction without a difference.

As to the probity and judgement of our elected representatives, that too is an issue handled under the Constitution by democratic elections. There is no guarantee of what we will get, but there is some assurance that we will get whom we chose. It's an imperfect world, I guess.

Mr. Wiener's judgement is indeed disappointingly immature. He did not, however, break any laws nor did he commit adultery. In fact he never met met any of the women to whom he addressed his graphic mash notes.

Mr. Vitter broke the laws of both Louisianna and Washington DC as well as his marriage vows by his frenetic whore hopping. He still serves in the US Senate as a beacon of Republican morality. We could go down the lengthy list of congresscritters from both parties who have shown the discrimination and discretion of rats in heat, but what would be the point? Nothing Wiener did rises to the level of those transgressions; the important thing is the hypocritical standard and faux moral outrage by those public officials who have not been caught yet.

All in all, it has been a great shindig for the Moral Minority.

Originally Posted by 9aces

I am honest about my degree of self-interest. You are not.

If you can't even be honest with yourself, what have you got?

Keep telling yourself whatever you need to feel better about yourself.

Originally Posted by Steve

I wonder why some people are afraid to answer a question with anything but another question...

Could it be sarcasm on MattInFla's part. I think it is. As for the other yahoos thinking it's because of low taxation, I beg to differ. Then again, no matter how many charts you, me or anyone else throws up showing expenditures, it will always be Bush's fault.

Originally Posted by 9aces

I leave alternate reality to you.

I proved it. As has been posted many, many times, which you have yet once to be able to disprove.

LOL, you still don't understand, you're hopeless, at least I can save time by skipping over any "insights" you have on the economy...

Originally Posted by jpn

When Clinton began his term, federal debt as a percentage of GDP was 66.1%. When he left office, the debt was 56.4 percent and

1) Clinton was a low down big spending liberal/socialist like all liberals

2) People hated him so elected the first Republican House in 40 years

3) Republicans made him lie and say, "the era of big government is over"


4) Newt was breathing down his throat with government shut downs, tax cuts, and Balanced Budget Amendments

5) Plus, Clinton inherited a huge boom from Bush 41

Now you know the whole story.

Originally Posted by 9aces

Human beings are not wired for the protection of the whole species, they are wired to protect their family groupings. Given a choice of saving your family group or provide for their own, 99.999% of humanity will provide for their own and most of those will help you into the grave if they think it will give them more.

Yes, you do live in a black and white world, you're just trying to hide from it. Which works for a while, but sooner or later reality will find you.

Reality always wins in the end.

Sorry! Your world sounds horrible, selfish, and with no chance for long-term survival.

No, our world is not "black and white." It is a world based on social responsibility and openness. It is not perfect, and obviously our family comes first, but we do know that, our family alone, with no regard to other people's families, to a broader "humankind" empathy, would not survive.

Originally Posted by goober

LOL, you still don't understand, you're hopeless, at least I can save time by skipping over any "insights" you have on the economy...

I understand you have absolutely no grasp of finance. That's something everyone on this board has been well informed of when it comes to you.

Except Danny maybe, he's pretty clueless when it comes to finance and economics too.

Not sure about math though, I would at least hope Danny can add 2+2 and get 4. I know your math skills aren't that advanced though.

Originally Posted by Sadanie

Sorry! Your world sounds horrible, selfish, and with no chance for long-term survival.

No, our world is not "black and white." It is a world based on social responsibility and openness. It is not perfect, and obviously our family comes first, but we do know that, our family alone, with no regard to other people's families, to a broader "humankind" empathy, would not survive.

How do you think mankind got to this point?

It certainly wasn't through "social responsibility". It's been through the inspiration and effort of those rare individuals who have dragged the rest of mankind kicking and screaming along in their wake.