Thread: Force Jobs Back to U.S.A.

We in Washington are quibbling about how we can borrow more money to keep our system afloat. It was said on meet the press the world is waiting to hear that we know what were doing and have a plan that will lead them to believe we are a good bet.

What if Obama announced we are going to take our jobs back by any means possible even to the extent that we will implement and use a cartel and tariffs (such as I described) to do so.

Without the return of our jobs the ruckus going on now over the debt limit is IMO meaningless !

I'm sorry to say this but as big as the US market is I think the rest of the world would be rather upset if you started throwing your weight around and tried forcing jobs back to the US.
For every tariff you force on us we will just retaliate and in the end the US would lose.
I realise you need to sort out your financial situation in the US but simply turning into a financial bully is really not the best course of action.

Originally Posted by skeptic1

By making it no more profitable to off shore production than to produce in our own or similar country.

HOW ? With tariffs penalizing those who would exploit low cost labor at the expense of American or any industrial based countries jobs/markets !
JUSTIFIED on our part by the "War Powers Act" .

We kill each other now for control of an others natural resources if we need them.

Let's form our own cartel of similar affected countries and give the "Workers" a piece of the pie NOT THE SHAFT.

Trade would be based on quality and logistics.

I guess I would offer up a suggestion and start with California, they, the state contracted with China to build the SF-Oakland Bay Bridge for a savings of 400 million. If I was you I would go tell California (a liberal state) to pay the extra 400 million for a company to build it here. When you go don't forget California is in debt 15 billion. Good luck.

Jobs aren´t apples that nasty youths steal from their neighbours garden. The road to more jobs goes via investment in education and job training, an attractive investion and business climate and manufacturing innovative products. Not via bullying around.
And look at countries that sucessfully manage NOT to outsource their key industries and show that it IS possible to sucessfully compete with China :

Germany's new boom: making money by making stuff | World news | The Guardian

Originally Posted by stretch351c

US Poised to Have World's Highest Corporate Tax

I'm not talking about union rules, I'm talking about union benefits. As for universal healthcare, it's bankrupting Europe. Companies go where it is the cheapest to do business. The fact that businesses are shipping jobs overseas means that it's not here.

ahoy stretch351c,

two things matey;

a) the united states 'o american does not have the world's highest (effective) corporate tax rate...not even close.

b) if the cost 'o healthcare be bankruptin' europe, what do ye think that cost is doin' here in our great country? i mean, americans pay far, far, far more fer thar healthcare than our european counterparts do.

*bows*

- MeadHallPirate

People who talk in terms of getting jobs "back" have absolutely NO understanding of basic economics or history.

There have always been fools who don't understand the process of creative destruction, who have an incredilby small-minded and myopic view of how economies grow, raising standards of living through innovation and increasing productivity. 110 years ago, people like that were lamenting the industrial revolution because it was destroying jobs. They were fools, as are those today.

The answer is not to try to get "back" jobs, the answer is to lighten the oppressive tax and regulatory hurdles to innovation and creation of NEW jobs. It means right to work laws in every state in the Union. It means streamlining and lightening the regulatory environment. It means a simplified tax code. It means the Federal Government alone needs to stop spending 25%+ of GDP, sucking those resources from the productive sectors of the economy.

skeptic1
Not if we change the laws ! There are too many who think it is OK to profit by others misfortune ! AND an equal number who think it OK to create the misfortune.

Oh please, let's not pretend your motivation in this nonesense has ANYTHING to do with the well being of those in impoverished countries. They are happy to have these jobs at the rates of pay they receive, they represent a step up in their lives. If you put it to a vote of the workers if they would like people like you protecting them from being "profited" from, you'd be lucky if they didn't vote to have you strung up by your toe nails.

The USA is the only country in the world

that when threatened with economic disaster,

will not attack and utilize its own vast natural resorces of oil ,NG,coal, etc

to produce energy independance, stimulate the economy, and produce jobs.

Is the danger to the environment(future) greater than

the present risk,danger and consequences of economic calamity?

I think not.

Originally Posted by mahayana

Offshoring has been going on for a long time, and now we have more "free trade" being pushed by both parties. A trip down memory lane-

Ross Perot - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

He's 81 now, and I sure miss the voice of a businessman who talked about the importance of manufacturing jobs. Maybe Huntsman's "New American Industrial Revolution" theme will address this once again.

Nearly every country we export to has tariffs on USA goods, but if we do the same that's bad? I guess its just bad if you happen to be the USA.

Costa Rica has high taxes/tariffs on all imported goods.

On autos, the price increase is almost 100%, all appliances have a huge mark up,

a bottle of sunscreen can cost $30.

The cost of healthcare is nowhere near bankrupting Europe.
The UK has had problems because we were over reliant on income from banks who rather unfortunately decided to become a bit shit so the NHS is not our main problem. The NHS is hugely popular in the UK and we are prepared to pay for it just as the US has paid for vast Armed Forces and a funky space program.

Europe has different priorities than a lot of people in the US and a decent free healthcare system is something we will not give up easily if ever. I think Europeans are more inclined to accept high taxes for the benefits that good public services bring.

PeterUK75
a decent free healthcare system

Anyone who thinks ANY healthcare system is "free" is too woefully ignorant of reality to even be worth having a discussion with.

Originally Posted by Marcus1124

Anyone who thinks ANY healthcare system is "free" is too woefully ignorant of reality to even be worth having a discussion with.

Semantics. PeterUK75 obviously meant universal healthcare.

Originally Posted by AdrienXII

Semantics. PeterUK75 obviously meant universal healthcare.

Nevertheless it's a legitimate point. Too many people regard the ideal healthcare system as the one which will cost them the least. I suspect the original post may have been a freudian slip