Thread: Stop Coddling the super Rich

Originally Posted by michael h

Jobs are up? Have you interviewed for 4 positions and seen 500 applicants? Only to be told your over qualified? There is nothing rosy about 9% unemployment ... nor the wages being offered.

More irrelevance. Youre trying to make some statement about outsourcing, and Im not sure what it has to do with Buffet.

Originally Posted by michael h

Jobs are up? Have you interviewed for 4 positions and seen 500 applicants? Only to be told your over qualified? There is nothing rosy about 9% unemployment ... nor the wages being offered.

lets not forget that among college graduates unemployment is about 4-5%.

30 million non college jobs were exported by liberal unions and 10-20 million were taken by liberal illegals invited in.

Make unions and illegals illegal and unemployment is 0 tomorrow!!

Originally Posted by jviehe

Again, this is relavent to your implication that Warren Buffet works and factory workers work how? Let me refresh you on what you said.



Granted your original sentence didnt make sense.

The unemployed don't earn anything. Nor do they pay taxes unless its from unemployment checks. Relevance is to those who no longer earn ...

Originally Posted by Brutus

lets not forget that among college graduates unemployment is about 4-5%.

Are you defining unemployment as a state after employment?

Are you referring to graduates from 2006 till today who were never hired at all?

Are you referring to graduates who acheived Masters or Phd but got jobs as burger flippers or coffee pumpers.

Lots of other forums are packed with the last category.
And yes, annnoyingly enough, entry level Americans, "unskilled" by the standards of corporate America, which has gone off-shore or brought the foreigners here.

Originally Posted by jviehe

More irrelevance. Youre trying to make some statement about outsourcing, and Im not sure what it has to do with Buffet.

Originally Posted by jviehe

Youre right, i mustve read the wrong line. On the plus side, overall jobs are up, so those factory workers can get a job in a different sector. Still not sure how this is relavent though.

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BLS shows 500k more manufacturing jobs since 2000. So to be accurate 500k MORE are earning.

Different factory worker. Not sure how this is relavent. You asked if Buffet earned his money like people whos jobs have since been outsourced. The answer is yes. He earned his money both like the factory worker who lost his job, and whatever new job the factory worker now has, probably some other factory in the US, which employ 12 million people.

Of course he does. He produces something and sells it to someone. Same as some factory worker.

At no point does a previously employed factory worker earn his money like Buffet. He's unemployed ... his job exported and the job removed from the labor pool. That's why we have high unemployment.

Originally Posted by USCitizen

Are you defining unemployment as a state after employment?
.

as BLS does
The jobless rate for Americans with at least a bachelor's degree rose to 5.1%, the highest since 1970 when records were first kept, reports the Bureau of Labor Statistics.

Originally Posted by Brutus

as BLS does
The jobless rate for Americans with at least a bachelor's degree rose to 5.1%, the highest since 1970 when records were first kept, reports the Bureau of Labor Statistics.

That's fine but the BLS is usually, for whatever moronic reason, about 3 years behind the curb.
I mean, they're still touting IT as a hot field when it died in 2006.

Originally Posted by USCitizen

Are you defining unemployment as a state after employment?

Are you referring to graduates from 2006 till today who were never hired at all?

Are you referring to graduates who acheived Masters or Phd but got jobs as burger flippers or coffee pumpers.

Lots of other forums are packed with the last category.
And yes, annnoyingly enough, entry level Americans, "unskilled" by the standards of corporate America, which has gone off-shore or brought the foreigners here.

I worked with a Masters degree graduate making half my pay. Putting rotten food into a trough for grinding ... and damn well happy to have a job.

Originally Posted by Brutus

lets not forget that among college graduates unemployment is about 4-5%.

30 million non college jobs were exported by liberal unions and 10-20 million were taken by liberal illegals invited in.

Make unions and illegals illegal and unemployment is 0 tomorrow!!

Bring the jobs back and unemployment will go down.

Originally Posted by michael h

I worked with a Masters degree graduate making half my pay. Putting rotten food into a trough for grinding ... and damn well happy to have a job.

Amen; a result of bad Presidential Trade Agreements.

Originally Posted by USCitizen

Amen; a result of bad Presidential Trade Agreements.

I worked with many bachelors degree graduates making less and happy to be working. She however was an outside temp, I felt bad for her having invested so much on her education.

Originally Posted by michael h

I worked with many bachelors degree graduates making less and happy to be working. She however was an outside temp, I felt bad for her having invested so much on her education.

Unlike the phony propaganda that Americans won't accept a lower, I know many people who have accepted such and many others who have taken pay cuts because they know the economy can't sustain a pre 2009 salary.

The Town Hall of Hempstead, NY had 5,000 candidates, who each paid $30.00, showed up for a $10.00/hour secretarial position.

I know, I know, the Cons would say that $10.00/hour is too much.

Originally Posted by USCitizen

Unlike the phony propaganda that Americans won't accept a lower, I know many people who have accepted such and many others who have taken pay cuts because they know the economy can't sustain a pre 2009 salary.

The Town Hall of Hempstead, NY had 5,000 candidates, who each paid $30.00, showed up for a $10.00/hour secretarial position.

I know, I know, the Cons would say that $10.00/hour is too much.

I made the final 8 of the 500 at an interview. I sat there to be told the job would not be challenging enough for me. Why interview me? Unless you enjoy manufacturing you leave it almost immediately. I used to go in early just to listen to the humm of hundreds of machines running at the same time. Opportunities to save millions of dollars in cost reductions to processes, and make products cheaper and more profitable. Lol finding the savings and watching it get moved to China.

If you have never worked in manufacturing and enjoyed it ... it means nothing to lose manufacturing. I'd rather make $10 hr manufacturing ... then make $40 hr in an office. Money ain't everything in life and job satisfaction/ looking forward to work instead of dreading it is worthwhile.