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    Re: Stop Coddling the super Rich

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    yes corporations move around the world to where costs are lowest so they can offer the lowest prices to their customers to whom they are enslaved thanks to Republican capitalism. This may be too complicated for you to follow. It does not mean that prices still don't go up due to the liberal inflation policy which is not related to our subject. Again, this will be too complicated for you to follow.
    How about this logic.

    The dot com bubble proved so profitable and addictive that even afterwards the Directors and CEOs couldn't resist lying about how great free trade is for the US as a whole, not just for 1% of 1% of 1%.
    In fact, many of them are now trillionaires rather than mere billionaires.
    They want to continue sucking everybody dry, so even though they have millions of slaves working for them in China and India, and even a few million on our shores, they want to keep up the multiple global estates.

    But don't ask me, just watch a Donald Trump interview once in a while.

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    I think both extremes are crooks in their own way.

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    Re: Stop Coddling the super Rich

    Quote Originally Posted by Brutus View Post
    you've confused in office with in power again. BO is in office and had a super majority but could not get a public option!! To be in office you often must compromise and move toward the center and even act like the party opposite as BO has done at times. Is that really over your head??
    But they didn't even try...

    of course with 30 million new jobs there would be tremendous upward pressure on wages
    30 million new jobs from where again?
    liberals lack the IQ to understand that a corporate tax is a cost like any other that is passed on the customers. A business is a tax collector not a tax payer.
    Conservatives lack the IQ to understand simple math, if the government stops collecting corporate tax, it will need to get that revenue from somewhere else, so which taxes are you raising?

    when was that exactly?
    In 1998,1999 and 2000, the federal government ran a surplus, yet we still had a trade deficit, could it possibly be that you can have one without the other?

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    Re: Stop Coddling the super Rich

    goober,
    I don't mind a Con who simply admits that the current economy is working for him but the sheer nonsense Brutus keeps posting, in pure contradiction to Wall Street's behavior leading up to the Great Depression, is simply turning a blind eye towards the issue.

    The history of America is neither all roses nor thorns.
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    Re: Stop Coddling the super Rich

    Quote Originally Posted by USCitizen View Post
    How about this logic.

    The dot com bubble proved so profitable and addictive that even afterwards the Directors and CEOs couldn't resist lying about how great free trade is
    its not CEO's who determine policy its the vast majority of the worlds economists on the left and right!! See why we are sure a liberal will be slow? You created a strawman and think you are so clever, when really liberalism means, slow. Sorry! I'm sure a great guy, just aliberal too.


    Quote Originally Posted by USCitizen View Post

    In fact, many of them are now trillionaires rather than mere billionaires.

    name "many" of them or admit you're a liberal without a clue what on earth you're talking about.

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    Re: Stop Coddling the super Rich

    Quote Originally Posted by Brutus View Post
    why not have the liberals send 10 million illegals home to create 10 million new jobs, as Republicans want to do?

    why not make unions illegal again to import about 30 million new jobs, as Republicans want to do?

    Why not end the minimum wage to create 2 million jobs

    Why not end business taxation to create 5 million jobs

    Why not eliminate the budget deficit so Japan and China have to buy our goods rather than our deficit! There's a real $2 trillion stimulus.
    Did you see the corporate profits chart? Look at them profits made from using communist slave labor ... What do you think the multinational profit chart looks like? I wonder how much the reduced costs of goods flowed into the product price?

    Wow, corporations profits really picked up since the end of 2000 and China PNTR.

    Damn corporate profits doubled since the end of 2000. How has America benefited? The destruction of its economy to benefit multinationals.

    seekingalpha.com/article/238799-the-big-disconnect-u-s-corporate-profits-rising-with-no-job-growth?iact=hc&vpx=308&vpy=80&dur=2454&hovh=211&ho vw=239&tx=151&ty=130&ei=hZdSTo7xJqTj0QHA2LiBDA&pag e=1&tbnh=126&tbnw=143&start=0&ndsp=32&ved=1t:429,r :1,s:0
    Last edited by michael h; 08-22-2011 at 04:40 PM.
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    Re: Stop Coddling the super Rich

    Quote Originally Posted by Brutus View Post
    why not have the liberals send 10 million illegals home to create 10 million new jobs, as Republicans want to do?

    why not make unions illegal again to import about 30 million new jobs, as Republicans want to do?

    Why not end the minimum wage to create 2 million jobs

    Why not end business taxation to create 5 million jobs

    Why not eliminate the budget deficit so Japan and China have to buy our goods rather than our deficit! There's a real $2 trillion stimulus.
    Did American GDP double since the end of 2000 from China PNTR? Isn't trade beneficial to both countries? How come GDP hasn't doubled for America like corporate profit?

    The Big Disconnect: U.S. Corporate Profits Rising With No Job Growth - Seeking Alpha
    “If we open up our borders … we could suppress wages of middle class jobs” – Alan Greenspan
    We need to suppress the wage levels of the skilled. We need to suppress wages in comparison to the “lesser skilled ” - Alan Greenspan

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    Re: Stop Coddling the super Rich

    Quote Originally Posted by michael h View Post
    Did you see the corporate profits chart? Look at them profits made from using communist slave labor ... What do you think the multinational profit chart looks like? I wonder how much the reduced costs of goods flowed into the product price?
    all of it since there is competition to have the lowest price Econ 101.


    Quote Originally Posted by michael h View Post
    Wow, corporations profits really picked up since the end of 2000 and China PNTR.

    Damn corporate profits doubled since the end of 2000. How has America benefited?
    imagine if profits were cut in half rather than doubled? DOW at 3000, unemployment at 29%! Liberals are so slow!





    The destruction of its economy to benefit multinationals.

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    Re: Stop Coddling the super Rich

    Quote Originally Posted by Brutus View Post
    why not have the liberals send 10 million illegals home to create 10 million new jobs, as Republicans want to do?

    why not make unions illegal again to import about 30 million new jobs, as Republicans want to do?

    Why not end the minimum wage to create 2 million jobs

    Why not end business taxation to create 5 million jobs

    Why not eliminate the budget deficit so Japan and China have to buy our goods rather than our deficit! There's a real $2 trillion stimulus.
    What happened to your spout about trade theory and its benefits that dumb liberals could not understand? Trade is wonderful to corporate profits but where is the benefits you spout?

    You turn and blame other things now as your wonderful trade can't stand on its own two feet.

    Ah, trade needs a balanced budget ... it won't work without a balanced budget.

    Ah, trade needs low wages here ... you must get rid of unions for trade to work ... it can't work with unions

    Ah, trade won't work with illegal immigration ... as if illegal immigrants were not here before free trade.

    Ah, free trade won't work with a minimum wage ... you can't benefit from free trade without slave wages.

    Ah, free trade won't work with corporations being taxed ... corporations paying taxes kills the benefits of free trade.

    Just how many times will you state that free trade always works ... stating see economics 101 silly liberal ... and then start saying it will only work if we submit to slavery.

    It works for corporate profits ... see the chart ... corporate profits up 100% since the end of 2000.

    What other conditions do you demand for free trade to work? We must work for 100 hrs a week? It only works if government is republican? Government must build new corporate headquarters for each corporation?


    The Big Disconnect: U.S. Corporate Profits Rising With No Job Growth - Seeking Alpha

    “If we open up our borders … we could suppress wages of middle class jobs” – Alan Greenspan
    We need to suppress the wage levels of the skilled. We need to suppress wages in comparison to the “lesser skilled ” - Alan Greenspan

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    Re: Stop Coddling the super Rich

    B,
    We follow Allan Greenspan who never said anything concrete in his career and has been right about 1% of the time.
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    Re: Stop Coddling the super Rich

    Give Brutus some credit; he makes more sense than Greenspan.
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    Re: Stop Coddling the super Rich

    Quote Originally Posted by Brutus View Post
    why not have the liberals send 10 million illegals home to create 10 million new jobs, as Republicans want to do?

    why not make unions illegal again to import about 30 million new jobs, as Republicans want to do?

    Why not end the minimum wage to create 2 million jobs

    Why not end business taxation to create 5 million jobs

    Why not eliminate the budget deficit so Japan and China have to buy our goods rather than our deficit! There's a real $2 trillion stimulus.
    I know something that works without all those changes and is prosperous. Go back to 2000 and get rid of China PNTR.
    “If we open up our borders … we could suppress wages of middle class jobs” – Alan Greenspan
    We need to suppress the wage levels of the skilled. We need to suppress wages in comparison to the “lesser skilled ” - Alan Greenspan

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    Re: Stop Coddling the super Rich

    Quote Originally Posted by michael h View Post
    Just how many times will you state that free trade always works ... stating see economics 101 silly liberal ... and then start saying it will only work if we submit to slavery.
    free trade is when you have voluntary Republican capitalistic conservative libertarian relationships, slavery is when you have soviet liberal bureaucrats trying to manage the economy.

    In Adam Smith's book he famously pointed out that in the 1770's no man knew how to make a pin, only capitalism knew, he taught. I can assure you, no soviet liberal bureaucrat knows how to make the 21st Century world economy work.

    Did you know that Wen Jiaboa, the Chinese premier, is an open fan of Adam Smith? Did you know they switched to conservatism from liberalism and instantly saved 20 million from slow liberal en masse starvation!

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    Re: Stop Coddling the super Rich

    Quote Originally Posted by michael h View Post
    I know something that works without all those changes and is prosperous. Go back to 2000 and get rid of China PNTR.
    you mean China India and Brazil, don't you? We can refuse to trade with all of them!! Good damn liberal idea!

    Then, our goods and services will no longer have to be world class and we can become a third rate country!!

    Liberalism should be made illegal as our founders intended.

    Did you know the commerce clause was designed to make trade free between the states. If our idiot liberals had their way how long would be before the states wanted to stop competing with each other again!!

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    Re: Stop Coddling the super Rich

    B,
    What part of intelligent trade that benefits us as well as the other nations did you miss?
    Oh, it was the part where your bloated portfolio reflects it's true value.

    And where exactly did Adam Smith say that ALL products should be produced by China and ALL services provided by India?
    And where exactly does Adam Smith become a proponent of excessive unemployment amongst those with an advanced education?

    And just when exactly did theory become real life?
    Do you watch too many Disney movies?
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    Re: Stop Coddling the super Rich

    The 50% who pay no taxes? Are you forgetting about the state and local taxes that are taken out of a40 hour week that, by the minimum wage today, is not even $300? Do you really think that the soldiers that are fighting for the control of the oil reserves, and make less than 1500 dollars a month, are extorting anything at all from the rich? And do you honestly think that Ayn Rand is someone to quote?

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