Thread: The Jobs Speech

Republican Congressman would support infrastructure in this country.

Congressman Walter B. Jones speaks in detail about all the pressing issues facing America. He says the country is in the 11th hour of a 12 hour clock and needs major changes. A very honest, no talking points conversation from one of the veteran members of Congress.

Congressman Walter B. Jones, Man of Conviction: Speaks to CYInterview on Key Issues; America Needs to Get Out of Afghanistan, Third Party Challenger For Presidency Possible, Willing to Support Infrastructure Investment, More | CY Interview

Originally Posted by MattInFla

Yes, Libya. I know, you lefties buy Obama's bullshit claim that it's not a war.

Tell that to the people killed by US missiles and bombs.

Oh, wait, I forgot - you guys only care about that stuff when the other party is in power. When your guy kills kids with bombs, you've got nothing to say about it at all.

Wrong. This Lefty is against the war in Libya. I definitely hold Obama accountable for that (as well as the continuation of the tax cuts).

Originally Posted by thanatos144

Progressive destroy freedoms. Through thier ignorant belife that they are smarter they dismantle liberty......... That is facism ......... Just because you agree with it doesn't change the fact.

Huh? First, your post makes no sense. Second, I'm a libertarian (albeit on the Left), how am I trying to "dismantle liberty?"

What is "facism?" [sic]

If you're talking about fascism, you may want to reference what the definition is before you pontificate about it. Then you may want to indulge yourself with some information about how both parties are fascist through their strengthening of the MIC and the corporatization of this country (via the blurring of the lines between corporate and state power).

Originally Posted by natstew

Do you, Rude Boy?

Fascism is when business is owned by the people and totally controlled by a one Party system of Government, which by the way, is what Democrats want, totally.

So, Progressivism/Liberalism is Fascism.

Logical fallacy.

Yes, I'm aware of what fascism is. The merger of corporate and state power (classical fascism had the state, one party, and ultimately one man as the absolute authority, while neo-fascism has the corporate entity as the absolute authority).

I'm not a Democrat, and yes, I understand that they and the Republicans have fascist elements in their perpetual quest for state power. Neither one is blameless.

I'm not a liberal, though I do have sympathies with some of their causes - they have good intentions, but they still believe in capitalism as the solution to social and economic problems. I harbor no such illusion.

I am, however, a progressive, and while I understand that some elements of the progressive past have been far from good (as with any political movement), the overall philosophy is sound in that its goals are the advancement of human social relations in a more egalitarian and peaceful way.

So, while liberals can be progressives, not all progressives are liberals. I am a socialist in the anarchist tradition which is inherently progressive.

Today's lesson is on me.

Originally Posted by natstew

In four years the Bush tax cuts (mainly to the lowest tax bracket) had reversed the Clinton recession that started 11 months before Bush took office and increased Federal revenue by 40%.

Oh, and just because a man is a good speechwriter doesn't make him an expert on the economy.

As for these "expert" Economist, most are guided by idealogy and have zero actual experience in the economy. They got a degree from some school somewhere, most of which are idealogically socialist.

"[I]dealogically" [sic] socialist."

Methinks you may need to take a refresher course on what "fascism" and "socialism" actually mean.

Was walking to work cause I work so my family can only afford one car listening to pandora and a comercial for the dnc came on talking about the jobs bill read it learn it they said..........so I guess they are relevant cause they advertise lies on the cool thing kids use......... They dont vote morons and you didn't tell them where to read this great bill.........

Originally Posted by thanatos144

Was walking to work cause I work so my family can only afford one car listening to pandora and a comercial for the dnc came on talking about the jobs bill read it learn it they said..........so I guess they are relevant cause they advertise lies on the cool thing kids use......... They dont vote morons and you didn't tell them where to read this great bill.........

I listen to Pandora and have never heard the the commercial you are talking about. Not that it matters because the rest of what you said didn't make much sense.

I'm guessing here; but were you trying to say that the DNC can only advertise to kids because they're morons and don't vote? Does the RNC not use advertising to get their message across? If you're going to denigrate one party, at least be consistent and denigrate them both.

Just a thought.

Originally Posted by Rude Boy

I listen to Pandora and have never heard the the commercial you are talking about. Not that it matters because the rest of what you said didn't make much sense.

I'm guessing here; but were you trying to say that the DNC can only advertise to kids because they're morons and don't vote? Does the RNC not use advertising to get their message across? If you're going to denigrate one party, at least be consistent and denigrate them both.

Just a thought.

Don't expect you to understand.

Originally Posted by thanatos144

Don't expect you to understand.

Cop out. That's a coward's tactic you used there. I asked you a question seeking clarification.

Your word salad made no grammatical sense. Rather than call you out on the grammar, I tried to ask for clarification. Then you come back with that lazy rejoinder?

Fucking hilarious.

Originally Posted by Rude Boy

"[I]dealogically" [sic] socialist."

Methinks you may need to take a refresher course on what "fascism" and "socialism" actually mean.

No, I don't, but maybe you do.

Fascism, naxism (national socialism), socialism, communism are all evolved from Marxism.

Originally Posted by thanatos144

Was walking to work cause I work so my family can only afford one car listening to pandora and a comercial for the dnc came on talking about the jobs bill read it learn it they said..........so I guess they are relevant cause they advertise lies on the cool thing kids use......... They dont vote morons and you didn't tell them where to read this great bill.........

I can decode this for you Rude Boy.

He works so that his family will only be able to afford one car. (OK.. I didn't quite get that part either... but that's what it says.)

He was listening to Pandora, and he thinks he is the only person of legal voting age that listens to Pandora.

The commercial he heard on Pandora asked people to read about the jobs bill, and he thinks that people who have figured out how to use Pandora are unable to grasp the use Google.

Originally Posted by Unique POV

I can decode this for you Rude Boy.

He works so that his family will only be able to afford one car. (OK.. I didn't quite get that part either... but that's what it says.)

He was listening to Pandora, and he thinks he is the only person of legal voting age that listens to Pandora.

The commercial he heard on Pandora asked people to read about the jobs bill, and he thinks that people who have figured out how to use Pandora are unable to grasp the use Google.

Since i and my girl work and are not on welfare we can only affors one car. There is no bill. The ad is targeted at kids which is stupid unless you wush to subvert the relationship between the young adult and the parents. (Which they are). I do.t expect anarchists or progressives to understand the truth about their ideologically driven leaders

Originally Posted by thanatos144

Since i and my girl work and are not on welfare we can only affors one car. There is no bill. The ad is targeted at kids which is stupid unless you wush to subvert the relationship between the young adult and the parents. (Which they are). I do.t expect anarchists or progressives to understand the truth about their ideologically driven leaders

What evidence do you have that it is targeted at kids? That it was on Pandora? You listen to Pandora, and I am assuming you are not a kid. I listen to Pandora, and I can assure you that I haven't been a kid since the mid 80's. I couldn't find the EXACT numbers for the ages of Pandora users... but for Last.fm (a similar but slightly hipper and more youth oriented service) under 18's account for only 20% of their user base.

You might also be perplexed to learn that Pandora advertising is "hypertargeted" according to what people are listening to. Apparently you must like a lot of "anarchist and progressive" music.

Because advertisers can leverage Pandora's hypertargeting options to reach the right person, at the right time, in the right place, there's no waste. Pandora also provides the right environment to reach engaged consumers around content they value and have integrated into their lives. All of which makes Pandora a smart strategy for marketers.

Pandora | Mobile Marketing Guide 2010 | Advertising Age


BTW... lot's of people who are not on welfare can afford more than one car; and lots of people that are on welfare can not afford a car at all... so not sure what the whole working and welfare thing has to do with one's choices in transportation.