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Reply With QuoteFunny isn't it. To try and prop up his wish for collective rule, he tries to use the one thing that is completely and totally an individual decision to believe that can never be forced on someone.Originally Posted by JohnLocke
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John Locke (Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy)
"Locke was born in Wrington to Puritan parents of modest means. His father was a country lawyer who served in a cavalry company on the Puritan side in the early stages of the English civil war. His father's commander, Alexander Popham, became the local MP, and it was his patronage which allowed the young John Locke to gain an excellent education. In 1647 Locke went to Westminster School in London. The importance of Westminster school in the intellectual life of the seventeenth century can scarcely be exaggerated. Locke was a King's Scholar. The King's Scholars were a small group of special boys who had the privilege of living in the school and who received a stipend for two or three years before standing for election for either Christ Church, Oxford or Trinity College Cambridge. While the “major elections” were probably political, the “minor elections” or “challenges” were among the most genuinely competitive admissions processes in English schools of the period. Locke did not succeed in the challenge until 1650. "
OMG!!!! John Locke WASN'T self-reliant when it came to receiving a top-notch edication!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Tell me it isn't so!
Tell me this site was written by a flaming moron LIBERAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You should always have an informed opinion, so after I inform you, please feel free to express my opinion...USCitizen
Secretary of State
Funny isn't it. To try and prop up his wish for collective rule, he tries to use the one thing that is completely and totally an individual decision to believe that can never be forced on someone.
A is A
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The only reference to privacy in TNT regards prayer; otherwise it is a gregarious work encouraging ACTS, not to mention rendering unto caeser.
I respect someone's opinion when TNT is not interjected to support a claim that isn't supported by the scripture.
And John Locke wouldn't be the first to use TNT to support his ideology.
You should always have an informed opinion, so after I inform you, please feel free to express my opinion...USCitizen
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It is funny how the Left never thinks it is greedy for the government to want your money. The Left calls people who want to keep their own money greedy!
"No free government, or the blessings of liberty, can be preserved to any people but by a firm adherence to justice, moderation, temperance, frugality, and virtue; and by a frequent recurrence to fundamental principles."
-- Patrick Henry
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An individual command is not about privacy but in opposition to collectivism pushed on the Left. You are in denial that scripture DOES SUPPORT "thou shall not steal," and "thou shall not covet" which is what Caesar did then and does now.
"No free government, or the blessings of liberty, can be preserved to any people but by a firm adherence to justice, moderation, temperance, frugality, and virtue; and by a frequent recurrence to fundamental principles."
-- Patrick Henry
Vice President
Yes. It is part of George Soros push that the Constitution should be taught in a new age interpretative way that supports socialism. That it is largely based on the Bible, which is about the salvation of an individual soul is why the Left has nothing but contempt for Christians, being so arrogant as to suppose they misunderstand their own religion.
"No free government, or the blessings of liberty, can be preserved to any people but by a firm adherence to justice, moderation, temperance, frugality, and virtue; and by a frequent recurrence to fundamental principles."
-- Patrick Henry
Vice President
They're both greedy and cooperate with other in order to acheive their goals.
You should always have an informed opinion, so after I inform you, please feel free to express my opinion...USCitizen
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George Soros, the Kochs, Buffet, Gates...What's the difference?
Try reading the Constitution and your imaginations of unlimited personal liberty fly out the window.
Your State owns your arse followed closely by the Fed.
You should always have an informed opinion, so after I inform you, please feel free to express my opinion...USCitizen
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Amendment 9 - Construction of Constitution. Ratified 12/15/1791.
The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.
You take unlimited personal liberty clearly spelled out in THE document to limit government and pretend the exact opposite.
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The problem is that you keep quoting the section of the moment.
As a whole, the STATE owns your arse before the FED.
Congress has the ENORMOUS power of taxation.
Your STATE has the ENORMOUS power of taxation.
The few rights stated in the Bill of Rights do not guarantee you, or me, the power of holding back our assets from either the STATE or the FED for the "general welfare".
NOBODY is thrilled about this FACT.
The ONLY way to ensure the maximum amount of individual liberty is by ELECTING those who PROMISE you your individual liberty.
And you've got to be on guard for the rest of your life because the next guy is always trying to defeat the current guy.
You should always have an informed opinion, so after I inform you, please feel free to express my opinion...USCitizen
Concerned Citizen
I think you are confusing Buddhism with the Judeo-Christian bible. Buddhism is about saving the individual soul. The Judeo-Christian Bible is about how an individual acts in a community. All the commandments, including “You shall have no other God before me”, are laws for the individual in society. Whether they came from God, or, Mosses was a very clever charlatan, the Bible was and is the basis for western society, the most successful society in history.
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Concerned Citizen
The knuckleheads are not the ones we need to convince; they wash with the tide. I still believe that most politicians want to be Jimmy Stewart in “Mister Smith goes to Washington”. I think that most of them want to do a good job. The problem is convincing them that our current trade policies are destroying the American middle class. To do that, we first need to get them to listen and that means numbers. Social media has the potential to unite the voices of the faithful, be they in a labor union, a university, a white collar job, or, the corporate board room and to make that common voice heard.
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The Judeo-Christian is about saving the individual soul. You can't save a society, only an individual.
A is A
Secretary of State
You believe incorrectly. Most of them just want their turn at the trough.
Why is it you think many of them spend millions for a job that pays a fraction of that? When was the last time you heard about a poor EX-congressman or senator?
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As I've said - conservatives pick and choose what they want and censor all the rest like a good hypocrite - and they extend it to the Bible.....
And if government orders you to violate the law of God....Romans 13:1-7
New American Standard Version
vs1 "Let every person be in subjection to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those which exist are established by God.
vs2 Therefore he who resists authority has opposed the ordinance of God; and they who have opposed will receive condemnation upon themselves.
vs3 For rulers are not a cause of fear for good behavior, but for evil. Do you want to have no fear of authority? Do what is good, and you will have praise from the same; vs4 for it is a minister of God to you for good. But if you do what is evil, be afraid; for it does not bear the sword for nothing; for it is a minister of God, an avenger who brings wrath upon the one who practices evil.
vs5 Wherefore it is necessary to be in subjection, not only because of wrath, but also for conscience sake." vs6 For because of this you also pay taxes, for rulers are servants of God, devoting themselves to this very thing. vs7 Render to all what is due them: tax to whom tax is due; custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; honor to whom honor.
Here, the ruling body ordered Peter and John not to spread the gospel of Jesus. But, that was in violation of God's commandment and they chose to violate the ruling body.Acts 4
Peter and John Before the Sanhedrin
13 When they saw the courage of Peter and John and realized that they were unschooled, ordinary men, they were astonished and they took note that these men had been with Jesus. 14 But since they could see the man who had been healed standing there with them, there was nothing they could say. 15 So they ordered them to withdraw from the Sanhedrin and then conferred together. 16 “What are we going to do with these men?” they asked. “Everyone living in Jerusalem knows they have performed a notable sign, and we cannot deny it. 17 But to stop this thing from spreading any further among the people, we must warn them to speak no longer to anyone in this name.”
18 Then they called them in again and commanded them not to speak or teach at all in the name of Jesus. 19 But Peter and John replied, “Which is right in God’s eyes: to listen to you, or to him? You be the judges! 20 As for us, we cannot help speaking about what we have seen and heard.”
21 After further threats they let them go. They could not decide how to punish them, because all the people were praising God for what had happened....
27 Indeed Herod and Pontius Pilate met together with the Gentiles and the people of Israel in this city to conspire against your holy servant Jesus, whom you anointed. 28 They did what your power and will had decided beforehand should happen. 29 Now, Lord, consider their threats and enable your servants to speak your word with great boldness. 30 Stretch out your hand to heal and perform signs and wonders through the name of your holy servant Jesus....
31 After they prayed, the place where they were meeting was shaken. And they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and spoke the word of God boldly.
The Believers Share Their Possessions
32 All the believers were one in heart and mind. No one claimed that any of their possessions was their own, but they shared everything they had. 33 With great power the apostles continued to testify to the resurrection of the Lord Jesus. And God’s grace was so powerfully at work in them all 34 that there were no needy persons among them. For from time to time those who owned land or houses sold them, brought the money from the sales 35 and put it at the apostles’ feet, and it was distributed to anyone who had need.
36 Joseph, a Levite from Cyprus, whom the apostles called Barnabas (which means “son of encouragement”), 37 sold a field he owned and brought the money and put it at the apostles’ feet.
And you can see what the believes thought about private property - it is secondary to the purpose of serving God - NOT SUPERIOR.
JohnLocke, 9aces and the majority of conservatives create and worship their golden calf called private property - and completely violate what God commands them about the pursuit of private property - BEFORE OBEYING GOD.
They have absolutely made private property superior to God.
Steve“Their idols are silver and gold,
made by the hands of men.
They have mouths that cannot speak,
and eyes that cannot see;
they have ears that cannot hear,
nostrils that cannot smell;
with their hands they cannot feel,
with their feet they cannot walk.
And no sound comes from their throats.
Their makers grow to be like them,
and so do all who trust in them....
Last edited by machinehead61; 04-02-2012 at 07:09 AM.
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