Thread: The Real Causes of Income Inequality

Originally Posted by USCitizen

Honors,
Join a neighborhood where you actually deal with your neighbors face to face and then come back.
You are living in Conservative la-la land.

Probably deals with them better than you think, much like I do.

Originally Posted by 9aces

Probably deals with them better than you think, much like I do.

It's the religion.
Isolation presents too many technical difficulties.

Originally Posted by USCitizen

Serious.
Actually, I see life styles like that when my wife and I watch those real-life murder mysteries on Saturday night.
A couple making like 40K live in a mansion.
Probably a much better quality of life than LI.

Yup, serious.

I'd say the quality of life is quite a bit better than LI. I've been there, I'll take here every day.

Good example. How much is a round of golf at a nice golf course, and when I say nice, I mean this nice. ALABAMA CRIMSON TIDE - University of Alabama Official Athletic Site - Facilities

Originally Posted by 9aces

Yup, serious.

I'd say the quality of life is quite a bit better than LI. I've been there, I'll take here every day.

Good example. How much is a round of golf at a nice golf course, and when I say nice, I mean this nice. ALABAMA CRIMSON TIDE - University of Alabama Official Athletic Site - Facilities

I think it's about $40.00.

Originally Posted by 9aces

Yup, serious.

I'd say the quality of life is quite a bit better than LI. I've been there, I'll take here every day.

Good example. How much is a round of golf at a nice golf course, and when I say nice, I mean this nice. ALABAMA CRIMSON TIDE - University of Alabama Official Athletic Site - Facilities

You do know some Yankees would melt in that weather? I worked in 95 to 120 deg for 20 years but I'll admit I can't any longer. It's just to damn hot for a Yankee down south.

Originally Posted by USCitizen

It's easy to talk when you retired before the great sellout.
Us "young" guys get to work for salaries that don't pay the basic bills.
If you think I can live on $15.00/hour when I bought my house in the early 90s you're smokin' dope.

Well then, maybe you are living in the wrong place. People buy houses on $15 an hour around here all the time. I was never one to stay in one place when the grass was greener if you get my drift. Between working and the military I retired when I was 52 and went back to grad school, worked for a year to do my internship, then decided not to go back to work. Most of my life before I was 50 I averaged less than $15 an hour and over the years bought 15 houses and apartment units during that period. I kept them and rented them out until I retired then sold most of them when I was 52/53. The point is, if you let yourself stagnate in space you will never amount to much. Don't tell me jobs aren't available as I see people going to work all the time. I have 6 children, 3 have retired, 1 whose husband is retired, and 1 of those retired went back to work. went back to work for the state when he got bored, 1 started his own business when his employer closed down US operations. and one daughter who will be 50 this year is planning planning to retire in 5 years. Choices my friend. I understand some people get bad breaks but when they do they have to take responsibility and go after what they want. And yes, I believe it is possible.

Originally Posted by michael h

Did you pay a nickle for that observation? Take a nap and think about it. Take two naps ... clear the fog and consider your nonresponse. Surely you want to discuss social welfare ... no?

I have discussed social welfare and I am for it, for the truly needy. Otherwise make good choices. If per chance you make a bad one, step back, decide what went wrong, then change direction, change states, change cities, change what every need be for you to survive. Imagine what happened when I went on the road with Uniroyal in late 1956, and ran head on into the recession of 1957. I had to work harder and expand my own horizons by seeing more people.

Originally Posted by michael h

Hmmmmm another non-response.

So disagreeing with you is a non-response? LOL

I'm attempting to discuss the real causes of income inequality ..

Training and location. I offered examples that apply to both sides of the debate. I'd say we already know unions run up employee compensation. The other side of that is not deemed worthy of debate because ... why?[/QUOTE]I have no idea what you are talking about. I am open to any discussion which has merit whether I agree or disagree.

Originally Posted by USCitizen

Could be Texas is a better place to be.
I presume that being a non-eastern seaboard state you would have fewer businss-visas.
Yes, in NY all that counts is desired salary.

Most IT visas suck, they're simply dirt cheap.
But it's not the IT visas that bother me, it's the hard sciences experiencing the "invasion of the body snatchers" that bothers me.

Hell, it's starting to suck being a MD.
UT System plans a fast track through medical school

I have but one question. Why would anyone stay in NY if their economics are as you describe? Go somewhere better, economically and socially. I had to spend 3 weeks in NYC once and couldn't wait to leave because the job wasn't worth the headaches.

I think there are several people who need attitude changes. If you come off in an interview as you do in your posts (not your words, your body language) no way would I hire you beyond mowing my lawn.

BTW, My yard man makes about $300 a day taking care of yards from March to November. The 3 months of winter he fishes and prepares his own land for a huge garden. Sometimes he picks me up on Sat afternoon and we spend a couple of hours on the water.

Originally Posted by dnsmith

So disagreeing with you is a non-response? LOL Training and location. I offered examples that apply to both sides of the debate. I'd say we already know unions run up employee compensation. The other side of that is not deemed worthy of debate because ... why?

I have no idea what you are talking about. I am open to any discussion which has merit whether I agree or disagree.[/QUOTE]

I made a list of items that create an army of unemployed ... was there one that doesn't influence compensation? You acting naive when you damn well have an opinion on everything else ......... but ......... any debate showing how wealth transfers hands from the masses to a few ... can only mean, I have to explain it to you or you can't grasp the fundamentals of demand for labor. Now I may think your conservative ... but I don't buy into the "I have no idea what your talking about".

Originally Posted by dnsmith

I think there are several people who need attitude changes. If you come off in an interview as you do in your posts (not your words, your body language) no way would I hire you beyond mowing my lawn.

BTW, My yard man makes about $300 a day taking care of yards from March to November. The 3 months of winter he fishes and prepares his own land for a huge garden. Sometimes he picks me up on Sat afternoon and we spend a couple of hours on the water.

Employment is little different then personal relationships. Trust and dependability. Some people need to surround themselves with sheep, some need generals around them to mind their forces when their back is turned. If your hiring sheep and not someone you could trust your life, bank account, and family with, you would not want me around you. If you wanted someone to laugh at your jokes when they weren't funny ... I'd tell you Dave "that was a lame ass joke. Then again when your ship was sinking and all the sycophants had abandoned you ... it would be nice to call someone for help and get some free labor because you were respected. I've worked months on a promise of compensation and told my previous plant manager ... don't worry, I'll do this as long as I can afford to and if I get busy, I'll give you help on weekends. Course I had to tell him Rush sucked too and I'd help him tomorrow if he called.

I'm not everybodies flavor Dave. My previous boss had tears in his eyes when he told my crew I was leaving, I'd have liked to have seen it, I wasn't present, so I could give him shit for being emotional.

Its not always about what you take from a job ... its about what you give to your fellow employees and ownership. Life without giving is not a life at all ... its a waste of life.

Originally Posted by dnsmith

I think there are several people who need attitude changes. If you come off in an interview as you do in your posts (not your words, your body language) no way would I hire you beyond mowing my lawn.

BTW, My yard man makes about $300 a day taking care of yards from March to November. The 3 months of winter he fishes and prepares his own land for a huge garden. Sometimes he picks me up on Sat afternoon and we spend a couple of hours on the water.

Of litmus tests ... my 1st litmus test of a person is how they treat their family ... not how they post. A man who will love his family will learn to love his job ... because his job is his welfare and the welfare of his family. So litmus test #2 is how does a man respect his job. Litmus test#3 is loyalty when times are bad ... there are plenty of fair weather people in the world. God does not enter the equation as all men are sinners.