Thread: Half the US On The Dole

The choice is either tick off the freeloaders or let the economy collapse and tick off everybody. I'm starting to think we are heading for the latter. Prepare for the worst and hope for the best.

This is why we need to restrict voting. At the very least, if you are on the public dole you should not be allowed to vote. The system is corrupt if people can vote themselves money from the public treasury.

Some type of federal government benefit.

What kinds of federal government benefits?

Or are all federal government benefits welfare?

The Constitution layed out the purpose of the federal government, for the general welfare. This is in stark contrast to the specific welfare that this thread is about.

Originally Posted by JohnLocke

This is why we need to restrict voting. At the very least, if you are on the public dole you should not be allowed to vote. The system is corrupt if people can vote themselves money from the public treasury.

What do you call government subsidies and outright grants to the favored few ?

That is what I'm talking about. It is not called general welfare but specific welfare or cronyism or corruption.

Such is the cost when you allow a few to send american jobs to cheap labor, to outsource what americans should be making.

Some want to ship jobs off, and then put those displaced folks in dire straits, while giving them no social safety net. I call those conservatives. In other times, they had various other names.

The cost of wealth travelling more to the top is costly to a modern nation who strives to help its poor. Jobs are swapped, for welfare, and the cons see no connection at all. Or, they like the "I got mine, get yours mentality" while there is nothing to get mine from. That too left for cheap labor, driven there by the greed of the few.

Cons, listen up, there are no free lunches, and everything you do to displace the american worker has consequences. It is a helluva thing when everything is interconnected.

It is particularly so when it involves the loss of millions and millions of middle class jobs, just so a few can get richer than they could here, using our own people.

Enjoy the social safety net spending, the welfare, you side had a lot to do in creating it by your economic and trade polices.

When Perot said that giant sucking sound was of jobs leaving this nation. NOW, what did you think would happen when you shipped millions of jobs away? That the fairy dust would be sprinkled to magically create extra service work? Many people in those jobs today qualify for food stamps because the pay is not enough to subsist on.

You wanted it, you got it, and this is the cost of your desires. NOW, you don't want to pay the costs that this madness would inevitiably lead to. You wanted to have your cake and eat it to. Only a conservative would find himself in this position. Well, ENJOY.

Originally Posted by JohnLocke

This is why we need to restrict voting. At the very least, if you are on the public dole you should not be allowed to vote. The system is corrupt if people can vote themselves money from the public treasury.

Fine, then also restrict anyone who makes money from off shoring, which has helped for this problem of welfare spending to explode. The ones responsible for the loss of jobs should be the first ones to lose the right to vote. Let em vote in communist china!

Originally Posted by tsquare

News released on a holiday weekend, no doubt to damper the attention paid to it:



The article ends with:



Not that the far left loons would ever ever allow such a thing like "a well-planned diet" of spending.

Half the households pay no federal taxes...

Half the households receive federal money...

I wonder if they are the same households?

Number of the Week: Half of U.S. Lives in Household Getting Benefits - Real Time Economics - WSJ

Yes, probably the same households, Millions of these people use to pay income taxes though. Before they lost their jobs to communists. So, their jobs are sent over seas, they suddenly have no job, apply for help, get it, and it pisses the right side off.

I think there is a real special place in hell for these guys. You cut a man's hands off and then demand that he play the piano! I can play the piano, you say, so it's your problem if you cannot. I got mine, get yours.

There is something deeply evil about these conservatives. Their own myopic view of the world lies at the root of their problem. A view in which flesh and blood take a back seat to a man made political, economic ideology.

Originally Posted by Blue Doggy

Fine, then also restrict anyone who makes money from off shoring, which has helped for this problem of welfare spending to explode. The ones responsible for the loss of jobs should be the first ones to lose the right to vote. Let em vote in communist china!

Nonsense. Restricting freedom is NEVER the answer! One is a private decision; the other is an unconstitutional public outlay.

Originally Posted by skeptic1

What do you call government subsidies and outright grants to the favored few ?

Corporate welfare? One company tax loop-holes? Lobbyist payoffs? Crony Capitalism (crapitalism if you will)? We've seen them all, and quite frequently and quite recently.

Plenty wrong with what's going on, the worst is that doling out more benefits that other pay for (in this case our children and their children) is the primary means to stay in office.

When A spends B's money for C's benefit, there surely is something rotten in Denmark (in this case Washington DC). Wholesale replacement through election appears to be the only answer.

This is the goal of the Democratic Party. Buy a voting base. For some reason, they think this is more ethical than soliciting voluntary contributions. What I love is that Democrats even browbeat their clients into voting for them. They make it clear that their benefits are contingent on continued support of Democrats, and if they still don't vote Democrat, they are obviously morally deficient and hypocrites to boot.

Originally Posted by JohnLocke

This is why we need to restrict voting. At the very least, if you are on the public dole you should not be allowed to vote. The system is corrupt if people can vote themselves money from the public treasury.

So what qualifies as "the dole" to allow restricitng voting? Medicare, social security,working a government job, serving in the military?