Why do you believe that harvesting energy from active volcanos is any more unrealistic than building a "Hoover Dam"? All it requires, is the potentiality enabled by the scale economies available to most public sectors.

Wrong!

Doing it in Iceland. Using there huge excess energy to open Hygrogen Gas stations so there can stop using oil.

Those stupid Icelanders thinking out of the box... But there are socialists

Somewhere you have been claiming that the taxes are actually a theft by the government towards it's citizens and that some secret circles are actually behind the whole tax issue, using this money to fill their own pockets. Now why would these secret circles advocate environmentalism that turns developed countries into third world states? Wouldn't they hurt them selves because tax revenues logically also would decline?
Or are the circles that advocate environmentalsim and those that make a nice profit from the taxes not the same secret circle?

Well that is certainly much more rational than the tomes of materials written on climate science.

It does make me wonder why the ruling elites pretend global warming is not really much of a threat at all....

Andrew

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Of course there are natural cycles to the climate. That is in no way exclusive of anthropogenic influences on the environment though. Man's actions can logically alter the existing cycles by amplifying them. There is no contradiction there.

Andrew

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[quote]Well that would be incometax under the Federal Reserve, which is a private for profit bank. None of our income tax goes to the USA, it goes to the international bankers who create money out of air and then loan it to us and change us interest on something that never was.

Watch this video, it explains.

FREEDOM TO FASCISM FULL MOVIE http://www.truthstream.org/?p=212 VIDEO

http://www.poodlecrap.com/Hateliars/...eo1.asp?Part=0 Another Link VIDEO



They use environmentalism as a gathering point for man.

Aurelio Peccei founder and past president of the Club of Rome said”
(the Birth of World Government Paraphrased from page16 by Michael S. Coffman Ph.D)

And profits aren't really that important for them, they own most of the Earth and hold the global money system in their pockets, money is more used in its force of debt to control others. Watch that film it will explain that point.





They are more branches, of the same. Which are used in a Hegelian dialectic towards a goal, like with UN Agenda 21 using the smart growth vs the wildlands project.


Samantha Smith, journalists, Testimony of her observations at the State of the World Forum, San Francisco, September 27 -October1 1995


More about that here www.takingliberty.us

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There has to be a precieved battle for the helgelian dialectic to work.

You can learn more about this trick here

UNDERSTANDING SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT with Michael Shaw

128 K version http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...37913031723401

300 K Version http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...71854336&hl=en



The thing they don’t tell the people about this is that the Elites cause all the pollution (they own the Multinationals corps) , and Fraud sources for Global Warming (3500 scientist who agree with global warming all get grants from the UN or the EPA while the 18,000 scientist who say it is a fraud do not)
. http://www.discerningtoday.org/

Groups like the Sierra Club are directly related to the Club of Rome and past Leadership have even stated they are in league with the Club of Rome and desire the Global Government promised by them. Past leadership has stated by a guy named Elvin
“…a collectivist world government and through a “global society” to replace “sterile nationalism with its evil emphasis on competition and Consumption

If you read the Club of Rome report, Limits of Growth, you will find they intend to create artificial shortages. Other publications such as The Unfinished Agenda and the 1992 Rio Report To The Club of Rome confirm that objective. They believe shortages are better than abundance, and low living standards are better than high living standards. I suggest you reread my January letter, evaluate the information cited there, and then read the summary of the Global Biodiversity Assessment contained in my Sustainable Development Syllabus. When you grasp the significance of the concepts discussed there you will understand why there is an energy shortage in California, and why the price of natural gas is rising across the nation. The "Elite" groups that rule the world want to create artificial shortages, force people to limit their consumption, and undermine our way of life. [23]
http://www.radioliberty.com/nlmar01.htm

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The models for climate change are flawed, the man who did the models for the UN says the UN is using the worst case data to put fear into people.

He also says this worse case would never happen, so the UN is lying.

So the man who did the models for our said climate change, says they are wrong and they hide much of the data that contridicted there goals.


http://www.sovereignty.net/p/clim/cctutorial.htm

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So what does that have to do with the possibility of anthropogenic influences on the natural system? Do you not have an answer for that?
Sure. But maybe he is lying too? Who is really to say?

For one you still did not answer the question about the logical possibility and potential for anthropogenic global warming. Do you not have an answer for that?

Besides, there are numerous climate scientists all arguing that we are indeed contributing by human activities to global warming. Are you claiming there is some sort of grand conspiracy amongst most of the climate scientists in the world? Spanning all nations, all manner of universities privatre and public, etc... That is one pretty damn big conspiracy. It almost makes it seem like the White House conspiracy to blow up the WTC could have actually taken place in light of the relatively more complex massive anthropogenic global warming conspiracy.... sheesh....

Andrew

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Really? Who is Helgel? Do you mean Hegel? Are you actually stating that the worlds ruling elites have conspired to create an artificial dialectic of opposing views? What are these polar opposites to be resolved into i wonder? Have you even read the Science of Logic? I doubt you could even struggle through one page of it.

That is hilarious man. Is the republican party paying you to spout this childish nonsense? Do you and kinetic work for the same cell?

Andrew

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Well to clarify, what should we do about the idiots who are forwarding the elites lie about human caused global warming.

We have parrots in the house, do they not understand they are being asked to take on 3rd world status to correct what the Multinational interests are doing?

The multinationals don't change via their design...we just become slaves...thats the given solution for human caused global warming....but when is the last time your oil tanker hit ground or your chemical plant blew up....the answer is NEVER!

The rich are using their works and hoisting the reponsiblity on us folks.

We are just trying to eat....and we are the problem?

Prehaps the problem lays with those that own the whole stinking EARTH! and profit by it...ya think?


WAKE UP, we are being used , abused and sold like cattle...common cattle.

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I don't know. What should we do about the paranoids that post their conspiracy spam non stop and fill the board up with their crap that nobody is falling for?

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Well dang!!

Now everyone will know why we evil Masons use candles in our rituals...there goes another secret!

We've been burning candles for over 3000 years...and we almost had the earth warmed up...but nooooooo

I would suggest that you use chemtrails to change their tune (or perhaps some sort of mind control ray).

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"What should we do about the idiots who think Global warming is happening?"

I dunno Robodoon, what do YOU think we should do about the idiots? Or were you just asking a snidely rhetorical question? Do you have an answer? To anything?