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Re: Polar Bears and the denial of Global Warming

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Me too. I like bears. My mother used to swear that she was protected by some bear spirit or something. They were in her dreams all the time. Then again, she worked in Yellowstone as a youth. Ursa.
Yellowstone! I'd love to go there someday.

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My kids and I used to read this book about how to protect yourself in really weird situations. One of them was how to walk in a forest and not be eaten by a bear. We got to giggling and the next thing you know my youngest was running through the house growling "je suis un ours!" (I'm a bear!). Why French? I don't recall.

Most people are really too stupid to realize how very dangerous bears can be and just think they're cute. Great. More power to 'em. If an animal has curb appeal it might just save their neck.
I totally agree with you -bears look cute, but are actually quite crabby and irritable. Not to mention POWERFUL! The grizzly (and the coastal brown bears) IMO are way more powerful than the polar bears. Anyway, what I mean is that bears can be quite dangerous, lethal in fact when it comes to humans.

Agree with you on the "cute" factor too. Hopefully it works.
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And the pictures of polar bears DO help. They elicit sympathy for the cause...like "save the whales".
Exactly. Developing a polar bear awareness momentum is easier when drowning photos are shown.



Climate crisis and human caused thermostat elevation are causes that enviromental justice advocates care about to get Americans to stop driving, building and other agendas.
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Exactly. Developing a polar bear awareness momentum is easier when drowning photos are shown.
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Climate crisis and human caused thermostat elevation are causes that enviromental justice advocates care about to get Americans to stop driving, building and other agendas.
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So you're going to take up smoking and get a job installing asbestos?
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(picture edited by me)So you're going to take up smoking and get a job installing asbestos?
What if I take up smoking volcanos? There should be enough to choke on at Montserrat.
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U.S. Issues Travel Warning For Volcanic Montserrat Island

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Washington, D.C. (AHN) - The U.S. Department of State is warning Americans living or visiting the island of Montserrat to monitor volcanic activity, and return to America if the situation deteriorates further.
Renewed volcanic activity at the Soufriere Hills Volcano has prompted U.S. officials to "thoroughly consider the risks of travel to Montserrat, and to take adequate precautions to ensure their safety if they do travel."
"The Government of Montserrat has identified unsafe restricted areas, which include the south and eastern parts of Montserrat adjacent to the active volcano. Remaining or attempting to enter these zones is prohibited by the Government of Montserrat."
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Re: Polar Bears and the denial of Global Warming

What is the topic of the thread? We seemed to be covering several aspects of climate change and have now gone way off topic discussing members (btw, I've deleted the posts). If the topic has run it's course, we can close the thread.
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It's not wasting bandwidth. It tells the story. My comments are more direct. What if Volcanic activity under the sea could warm the ice to melt it?
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A major volcanic eruption during the next 30 years could result in an ozone hole over the North Pole similar to the one already over the South Pole, according to measurements taken by American scientists.
When the bears don't have ice, don't they adapt as Evolution stresses? Why should the environment adapt to the bear and not the bear to the enivronment?

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Re: Polar Bears and the denial of Global Warming

I've asked Crystal to go ahead and close this thread. I'd also like to request that everyone go back to the beginning of this thread and see where this fell apart. Post 22 or 23...On my browser window, that equates to one page of quality discussion and six pages of pictures of volcanos and polar bears and the same comments over and over and over and over.

No discussion after page 2.
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I've asked Crystal to go ahead and close this thread. I'd also like to request that everyone go back to the beginning of this thread and see where this fell apart. Post 22 or 23...On my browser window, that equates to one page of quality discussion and six pages of pictures of volcanos and polar bears and the same comments over and over and over and over.

No discussion after page 2.
Just checking through - out of the 5 threads on the environment forum that have been open in the last day, three have final posts by the same person - one most inclined to post pictures that are irrelevant to the issues at hand. I also note that the point at which you stated this thread began to fall apart was when this same person began to post his irrlevant pictures and people responded to this.

I am very interested in environmental issues. I have started a lot of threads on these issues and have made a habit of providing current links which report on issues related to climate change.

I also live in a region that is affected by climate change, have contact with people researching the effects of this and have contact with many others who can see their lives and their futures being severely affected (this week I was talking to a guy from Kiribati - highest point 3 metres above sea level - a coral atoll where beaches are already being washed away. believe me - such people take climate change very very seriously).

I wondered if I were beginning to have caught the kind of paranoia that is evident among many of the posters on this forum when I began to think that certain people don't want me to express my point of view, or provide links that the American public don't usually access. (Its not that these links aren't easy enough to find - if you know where to look - just that people don't seek out information if its too hard.)

However I am beginning to believe that a certain poster on USPO has an agenda to silence people like me, which is why he is trolling on this subforum, and several others.

His posts are usually guaranteed to drive a thread off topic, usually consist of inane repetitive comments that have very little bearing to the issue being discussed, his 'responses' to other posters could be written by a robot and he takes up an excessive amount of bandwidth posting irrelevant pictures and articles that are outdated/have no bearing on anything.

Allowing someone like this to dominate the forum (he is also the last poster on 25% of war and peace threads in the last 12 hours) detracts from the quality of this forum.

this should be considered.
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