As early as 2002, the White House officially recognized a threat to polar bears existence: whitehouse.gov July 2002 Even then, it was suspected that Global Warming was the cause but in the treaty with Russia, melting ice is neither targeted nor even mentioned.

And today, 12/27/2006, headline environmental news: When asked if Bush was going to see Gore's documentary - which specifically cited the threatened existence of Polar Bears - Bush said this:
"Doubt it. But I will say this about the environmental debate: that my answer to the energy question also is an answer to how you deal with, you know, the greenhouse gas issue. And that is new technologies will change how we live and how we drive our cars, which all will have the beneficial effect of improving the environment. And in my judgment, we need to set aside whether or not greenhouse gases have been caused by mankind or because of natural effects, and focus on the technologies that will enable us to live better lives and, at the same time, protect the environment. "

I agree with Bush that the cause doesn't matter as much as the cure but he readily admits we could be doing something about protecting the environment. Could we please put a rush on that plan to create cleaner, better fuels?

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Platitudes like the one you offer are no different - and no less incorrect - than the jackass part-time Christian who says, "I'm going to heaven because I'm nice to people." It so misses the point.~Impugn

Quoting JHC:

We- or rather 'they'- are. There's a team up here at the lab that has developed a microwave ionizing device that can be installed on the fuel systems of vehicles that breaks down complex hydrocarbon molecules into simpler hydrocarbon molecules that not only dramatically improve the efficiency of the fuels normally used in said vehicles- by as much as 40-60%- but also results in far less production of the greenhouse gases and would also allow the use of other fuels that a regular gasoline engine cannot now use. Of course it would mean the oil companies would be selling a lot less gasoline and diesel for every mile traveled even with existing engines so it will be interesting- and telling- as to how they respond to these new developments.

Gem

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On the surface, microwaving gasoline doesn't seem like a good idea...

Kramer

I don't think it's microwaving in the sense you're thinking of it, Kramer. What it does is "crack" the complex hydrocarbon fuels into cleaner burning and more efficient simpler hydrocarbon fuels and allows for the use of fuels that wouldn't normally work in a conventional gasoline or diesel engine. I'll see if I can find some links that describe the process better than I can.

Gem

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There is no political solution to our troubled evolution.

"Reality, the left-wing liberal conspiracy. "
Credited to Angry American.

As long as folks remain convinced any effort to combat global warming will negatively inpact thier pocketbooks, without any payback, global warming will remain a non-issue. The key is to keep them convinced as long as possible.

That's the crux alright.

I'd love to own a hybrid car for instance, but I simply can't afford to make a statement. MSNBC: Hybrid Car's - are they worth it?

The government credit makes "making a statement" marginally more palatable but does not actually create an incentive for your average Joe (or JHC in this case) IRS.gov - Hybrid Tax Credit

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...the government...is caving in...with their specious arguments couched in the...language of civil rights law, and that the churches ... likewise crumbling to...rhetoric which is nothing but heretical sophistry -- ~F Phelps
Platitudes like the one you offer are no different - and no less incorrect - than the jackass part-time Christian who says, "I'm going to heaven because I'm nice to people." It so misses the point.~Impugn

So, what are you doing wasting time blabbing about it online ? You're accomplishing nothing here.

Get to work.

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I should think that the impetus should be on those who have the power and authority to enact such change...

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Are they doing it ? If they're not why are you on the internet fuckin' around ?

Write 'em. Vote 'em OUT.

DO SOMETHING.

Create a cleaner, better fuel for us all if you're so smart.

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What makes you think I'm not trying to vote them out? What makes you think I'm not writing letters?

Is this the new line? Is this Thane's new inane tack? "if it's so bad then why are you on the internet."

Come on, Thane, thats weaker than usual.

And I happen to know my limits. Fuel development is not something I am capable of.

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No more off topic posts, please!

Just gotta love it...
People demanding more power for the techno that is in our lives today...
People not demanding the power companies or auto companies to make better items... or cleaner power but looking to the "Mother Government" to do what each of us should be doing.
Eco groups laying full blame at the people and not the planet....
There are things going on with the planet that mankind has no control over ,,, but that is never talked about..

The self important and arrogant veiw point of liberal ideologies has everything in the universe dependant on us humans.

They live in a world that only exists in their head. Why, is it, do you think they're in every way, so disconnected from reality ?

Global warming

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Thats the way you see it is it?



Oil is subsidized by the government in a myriad of ways. You don't have to look hard to discover them: New York Times one week ago.

So, speaking of "mother government", perhaps if we hadn't been subsidizing oil for the last 40 years, we wouldn't be in this predicament.

Need I go on to illustrate the personal ties that our elected officials have to the oil industry? Need I illustrate the importance of oil in our relationship with "allies" such as Saudi Arabia? I wonder if we'd even care if it weren't for oil.

Do you think there is a chance that the war in Iraq is an oil subsidy? After all, it's not like our oil companies are actually drilling for new oil - did you know that? They make the big $ from refinement.

When the government encourages American's to save by putting pretty pictures on quarters, creating tax shelters for IRA's, etc... that is Mother Government.

When the government manipulates the economy through federal reserve interest rates, that is Mother Government.
When the government gives "child tax credits" and allows tax deductions for such things as health care costs, that is Mother Government at work.

The problem here, is that the situation of our dependence on oil is too urgent to rely on a free market reversal of an already manipulated market. We don't have 40 years. Some things really are irreparable and it looks like the results of global warming is one of them.

Would we have won WWII without conscription?

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...the government...is caving in...with their specious arguments couched in the...language of civil rights law, and that the churches ... likewise crumbling to...rhetoric which is nothing but heretical sophistry -- ~F Phelps
Platitudes like the one you offer are no different - and no less incorrect - than the jackass part-time Christian who says, "I'm going to heaven because I'm nice to people." It so misses the point.~Impugn

And what has the public done on its own to lower the use of oil? not one thing........ look and what kind of cars are bought...
What elected offical has not had ties to oil?
The public as looked to the government to correct the problem and not within to correct the problem.