Has anyone heard of this company Stern that claims to have a way of making unlimited free energy? They are apparently in the validation process.

I was just daydreaming up stuff and decided to google unlimited free energy and found it.

Steorn - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Your musings have turned up a lot of hot air (excuse the pun). I'm sure this guy Steorn is undertaking a publicity project rather than a research project. The only technical description basically eludes to a description of any common generator which employs the relative motion of conductors and magetic fields (except the claimed efficiencies achieved).

Check this out;
Patent applications on such devices are so numerous that the patent office instituted a rule that perpetual-motion machine concepts had to be accompanied by a model that could run in the office for a period of one year: Antigravity Machine Patent Draws Physicists' Ire

I can tell you first hand that moving parts need maintenance. NASA developed self lubricating gears and bushings in the 60/70’s, but making your own would require a well equipped shop not accessible to most.

I kinda suspect that both sides of the energy issue are pulling the wool over our eyes. I can light a flash-light bulb for a week using sea water and a beer can!!!
By-the-way, did you know you don’t need $20.oo worth of electricity to charge the batteries in an electric car to go 50 miles? You need to change the acid @ about 35 bucks for a 55 gallon drum and the lead plates once a month @ .12 cents a pound.

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Still, it makes me wonder what the heck they are going to announce in July. Maybe they have stumbled upon something that only appears to have a coef of energy > 100% however it might be a new phenomena humans have yet to discover.

They will do exactly what they claim they will do. They will make public all their research findings so that developers may develop applications for their technology. This in no way means they will produce a working machine or that their findings will be of any practical value except to the gullible. Careful reading of their website reveals that they do not make any firm promises of realising the practical goal of a perpetual motion machine. Nor do they explain anywhere anything of a technical nature - just mention a few technical sounding phrases as these types tend to do.

If they have stumbled upon anything it is most likely to be an already known and applied phenomena, possibly misunderstood.

There are some guys in Australia with their Lutec machine. They thought they had hit the jackpot because they simply didn't know how to correctly measure power consumed by rotating coils in magnetic fields (for the technical they were ignorant of back EMF). The problem was that once this had been pointed out to them they continued to seek investment from suckers.

A continuously running machine is not generally the goal. The goal is energy for free. My understanding is that a device which uses principles that violate laws of nature cannot be patented (in this case laws of thermodynamics).

The salt water battery is essentially what is going on in a dry cell. The dry cell has the advantage of a higher stored energy density by using more efficient electrolyte and electrode combinations. So if you asked someone to take the principle of the saltwater battery and develop into something more useful they would come up with the dry cell we have to day.

Your method for "recharging" the battery by rebuilding it has many practical failings. You have dramatically increased the price of lead and sulphuric acid through demand so your prices are unpredictable at best and definitely higher than quoted. You have also added a labour content to your battery rebuilding - not everyone will have the tools and skills to safely handle the materials involved. There is also an additional cost in manufacturing safe rebuildable wet cells. Then you have a disposal cost of all that PbSO4 (nasty stuff - particularily for young children). The rebuild company can extract the Pb and SO4 and sell it to you - but they'll do this in their own big battery using just as much electricity that you would have used charging it yourself. Do the economics and then I'll see if a rebuild is cheaper than a recharge. Further, a recharge is way more convenient.

Does the .12cents/pound of Pb include manufacturing costs to make the matrix and are you including the PbO2 plates as well - cause you'll want those.

I remember a few months ago Iran announced they had cured aids.... what a world changing event that was....

Andrew

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Ethanol is a fabulous solution to our energy dilemma because it will provide more fuel for us to drive around and look for food.

-- Unknown

If we only could transform matter into energy and vica versa like in star trek.

I'm going to patent the sun.

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Or like in any nuclear power plant ?

Ive never seen a power plant making a meal out of thin air.

and its not like the priciple of a nuclear plant is any different from say a coal plant.

The Tom Bearden Website


On Tom Bearden's website you can find a lot of information about zero point energy, that is the energy extracted from vacuum. Physicists say it's possible and point to magnets as living proof that the power is there if one can find a way to extract it.

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It converts matter to energy according to E=mc²; Coal plants are merely chemical.

Nuclear plant is completely different to burning coal.

erikvv is right, though. While the source of energy may be different, coal plants and nuclear plants operate in a similar way. It all comes down to steam and turbines...