TONIGHT ON CNN

In response to bush's speech warning of climate change - see for yourself what he is talking about.

Environmental news coverage (great concept) - see the truth for yourself as CNN provides global coverage on the issue.

Planet in Peril: Environmental Coverage - Special Reports from CNN.com

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I plan to watch it for sure.

Wow, what breaking news in politics this is!

I don't think it will have anything new that wasn't on Tom Brokaw's special on The Discover Channel a while back. I think it's good to have this sort of thing covered but I do not expect much to be done about it until the next president is in office.

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Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

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Please take an extra second and make sure your post is going in the correct forum. It is, after all, against the forum rules to simple post everything and anything in the "breaking news" section.

It is on the news tonight - So I need to wait for it to be over to be breaking news?

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It's a special rather than a breaking story though. Don't get me wrong. I'm glad it's getting coverage but global warming isn't a new breaking story by any means. And if you are just trying to promote the special then it really isn't a discussion.

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"Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

I wonder if they'll mention how ice core graphs of Temp and CO2 show that temp changed hundreds of years BEFORE CO2 changed. Or that mars started heating up at the same time as earth did and by about the same temp delta. Or that there is evidence that shows recent periods of low sunspot activity corresponded to colder temps on earth and also that higher sunspot activity corresponded somewhat to higher temps on earth. Or that the last 70 years of the sun has had higher sunspot activity than at any time in the last 8000 years. Or that the energy output of the sun has been increasing by 0.05%/decade since the late 1970's.

My bet is that the show will be about doomsday scenarios (dem scare tactics) and the inequality of one nation emitting 25% of the world's CO2 gases when it has only 5% of the world's population.

Kramer

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Most likely. Here's an interesting read about the scare tactics and the lies used FOR them:

Global warming, global cooling, or sloppy science?

You mean how the ice core samples show that in no time in the past 600,000 years have CO2 levels been as high as present or have risen as fast.

Please do show the datasets that correlate sunspots/energy output to our present rate of GW.

*turns off his television*

ahoy viper!

i watched two bits of it, the opening sequence where i was informed that species were becoming extinct at a record breaking pace...and i tuned in again later when CNN showed some rivers in china that had a very unusual color. the water looked like the chocolate lake in the recent willy wonka remake.

so...i turned off me tv.

too depressing to watch, and since nothing really meaningful is going to be done about it (until things get much much much worse), and there is nothing really i can do about it, i went back to playing counterstrike/WoW fer a while.


yarrrrrRRRR!

-meadhallpirate

I don't think we'll have wait as long as you might think. Some (a few, but it's a start) of Corporate america have already jumped ship on the "GW doesn't exsist" camp. I watched a different Documentry on GW last night and was very surprised to see that BP oil was the sponsor!! They even ran pro-enviorment/pro-alternate fuel commercials!!
I think that in 5 years or so GW will be accepted by most everyone including those not capable of reading science journals.

Even those that once belonged to the Global Climate Coalition have bailed out!
"...Since then many other corporations have followed BP s lead and left the coalition. This exodus reached a fevered pitch in the early months of 2000 when DaimlerChrysler, Texaco and General Motors all announced their exodus from GCC."

ahoy Denie mate,


sadly me friend, i think yer wrong on this one. BP has been running very foward thinking tV commercials for a long time, and i tend to be thinkin' that the whole campaign is just a cleverly packaged PR effort. not that i don't like it, kudos to them, but it don't mean a hill 'o beans.

and yes, there are small tremors that show signs of awareness that the citizens 'o planet earth are aware of what we're doing to our home, but in general, we all treat the planet like its a public restroom at a gas station;
we spray a toilet that isn't ours with feces, fill the bowl with filth, and exit quickly without flushin', since its not our toilet, and we know we aren't coming back when we're gone...so we leave it for someone else to clean up.

time and time again, we seem to reach the same line 'o reasoning...that the holy grail of human development on the planet is the bottom line. yes, yes, yes, we have to save our enviornment, but not at cost of economic progress.

imma not bein' hysterical over this, im just bein' realistic. my folks travel to china regularly, and behind the fiscal miracle thats happening there, is truly an enviornmental disaster. the air there in any of the eastern cities that they visited is disgustin'. the water is undrinkable in much of the country.

in america, development in the west continues, though even the most rudimentary research on the water tables shows that none of it is currently sustainable. even if immigration to those fast growing areas stopped, right now, there would be serious, dire shortages of H2O in the west well within our lifetime.

we're pouring money into corn based ethanol, when there is not a single person on this board who thinks that its a viable source of energy.

i read a book on the big cats...it was on tigers, actually. within our lifetime, there will none living in the wild in any measurable way, they will all be gone, and the same can be said for so many species. if i were to name them for ya, i'd have to be welded to me computer till thanksgiving to type them all in.

*comes to the end of his rant*

ahh well...its nothing that most of ya don't know anyways. every poster on USPOL will be dead in sixty years or so, yet we know thar ain't a bloody thing we can do about it, so why spend much time dwelling on it? i feel the same way about our planet...in the distant future (100 years, maybe more?), things be fubar, and since nothing can be done about it...we should probably just concentrate on things like gay rights, social security, securing the border, the hunt for osama, romney's postition on abortion, and john edwards haircuts. in the big, big picture, these are all teeny, tiny items 'o concern, but at least we can impact them.

party on mateys, AHOYYYYYY!

(ps- im not sayin' im better than any of y'all, either. im just as bad as anyone, and to be honest, i dont spend alot of time thinking about stuff like this. im intrested in seeing robert downey's portrayal of iron man, IRON MAN -- OFFICIAL SITE -- IN THEATERS 2008 . i also can't wait to play with the new Nikon D3x, and i know the roof isn't going to fall on me head in this lifetime...thats why these disaster documentaries are more of a nuisance to me that anything else! life is for the living and the enjoyment of it, not for the worryin' of our demise.)

Don't get me wrong, it is a PR effort indeed. However, the mere fact they jumped ship on the largest, most powerful organization attempting to discredit the good scientific research out there on GW is a good sign.
I don't blame big oil for our current problem(even though in 1896 Svante Arrhenius suggested that burning fossile fuels could cause a Green House effect), I do however, blame them for trying to create the illusion that GW doesn't exist or that man has nothing to do with it.
BTW...I happened on another GW/alternate fuel documentry last night, again sponsered by BP. I've not yet checked on this fact, but BP claims to be the largest solar power producer in the world...well, next to the Sun that is

RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!~!!!!!

What a waste of film.

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