This is really no surprise at all. I read a report similar to this last year. The violations are egregious and they make over 1/3 of all temperature readings FALSE according their OWN STANDARDS. Only 1% actually meet their standards.

Typical.

Another example of the wonderful "science" behind the myth that is HIGW.

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How is this an example of the myth behind AGW? Even if there was no AGW, there is still warming. Does Watts database of weather stations prove that there is no warming of the planet at all? (contrary to to all the other types of evidence that do not rely on US surface temps). And if it does not disprove natural global warming, how could it be used to disprove AGW?

Are you totally unaware of the reams of empirical evidence that indicates a warming earth that does not rely on thermometers? Like the net ice loss of the arctic and greenland, the disappearing permafrost in Canada and Russia, the rapid growth of deserts, the massive droughts all over the globe, the retreating of glaciers everywhere, the increase of Co2 in the atmosphere, the changes in ocean circulation, the warming of the ocean surface, the poleward migration of species... and so on, and so on.

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It would only be an issue if the US temperature record had been biased significantly by these 1/3 of stations.

Either they don't alter the record significantly, or the algorithm used to compile the record has taken care of the biases, because if you take away the 1/3 of sites that are bad and only use the ones that remain, you get a trend very close to the global temperature record.

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Even if true, it would make no difference unless you can show thermometers 50 or 100 years ago were any less poorly situated.

As someone who has been alive almost 60 years and has family diaries going back about 150 that record the weather I know without even looking at formal data that the climate is warming.

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Exactly. The temperature difference is the same regardless.

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Well that recent report about the North Pole melting even faster than what Gore predicted has me convinced. A few lunatics in America think he's all bogus and all, but that UN report coupled with the one with like a hundred scientists is an eye opener. We're losing our polar ice caps and they're never coming back. It's freaky. In the meantime, there are lawsuits being filed all over America by states that are running out of fresh water. As we begin to get off the oil, water is going to take it's place as the resource that begins so many new wars. I hate that we're coming to it faster than ever. I hate that I feel like my generation is too busy on their cellphones to give a shit and that it's my generation that'll be responsible for doing nothing when the shit hits the fan.

Oh my... So the reason that there is no global warming is because there are BBQs ? So, all the signs that can be seen are bogus...

The fact is, that Surface temperature recording stations are a tiny part of record keeping.There are stations on ships and buoyage, airplanes, radio probes AND satelites (no danger from BBQs there)

Not to mention that other nations & continents might have better national science institutions...
Just see how many stations there are:

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Or perhaps an example of the very similar but opposite myth that's being built as we speak, the GW-is-a-non-event myth.

Meridious, this has got to be the poorest attempt to add to that myth. Very poor indeed.

I think the point is that the database of surface temperatures is irrepairably corrupted. Apparently, sometimes on purpose.

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In other words, there is no consistancy in the methodology.

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Could you explain the reasoning you used to come to that absurd conclusion?

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Obviously, if the thermometers were well placed 50 years ago and poorly placed today, you could question global warming based on possible error. However, if they were just as poorly placed 50 years ago, then it doesn't matter - they still show a valid rise in surface temperature.

Actually, nobody but a few scientists paid by the energy companies questions global warming - even the White House admits it. They just don't want to pay the cost of dealing with it - however, the cost of ignoring it is going to be far higher.

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Thermometers and the methods to record temperature were different 50 years ago.

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