I'm wondering if whales can be alerted by means of underwater sonics. There has been that much study of their language that surely somebody has identified whalish for 'scarper....it's the Japs' ?

Still, a good ramming might have to do.

Yes, a good attempted murder of the whaling ship crew seems just the ticket, moon.

Excellent suggestion.

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I'm sure he just means to disable it so that the arseholes can't fire their explosive harpoons into peaceful mammals, Larson. Don't tell me that you're also pro-harpooning as well as anti-Palestinian ? Where do your charms end ? Lol.

Your plea was for a "good ramming", not a "good disabling".

You do understand that a collision at sea could very well end up with the sinking of one or both ships, right?

Perhaps you've considered the water temperature in Antarctic waters, and the survival probability in same?



For someone who claims to abhor killing, you sure cheer for it a lot.

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Moon, worse than that, I heard the whales are Palestinian refugee whales, and the Jap whalers are jews in disguise.

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Whats wrong with defending the existence whales using whatever force necessary?

If the whales cannot defend themselves from these Japanese whalers, is it really immoral to intervene using force on behalf of the whales?

Are whales somehow less deserving of life than primates?

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Do the ends justify the means with you?

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Depends on the situation.

But in this case the end for the whales is certain death (and potential extinction over the long term), the end for the whalers is most likely juts a bad day and no whales. The real risk of loss of human life is to the activists willing to take action.

Regardless, i don;t think the whalers have any more right to life than the whales. If Paul Watson is willing to risk his life to intervene on behalf of the continued right to life of the whales, kudos to him. I wish there were more like him, and im sure one day there will be.

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Actually, in a collision at sea, both vessels are equally in danger.

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Are they less deserving of life than humans? I say yes.

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Perhaps. Depends on the vessels i suppose.

I would expect all human participants in this episode to have life jackets and radios. The risk to human life is small, but it is there.

Andrew

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According to what calculus?

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To my own. I don't claim to speak for everyone. Either way, it is Japan's sovreign right to choose to allow whaling. If I was Japan, and this freak Watson ever carried through with his threat to ram a vessel flying the Japanese flag, you had better believe the Japanese navy would show up and send him to the fucking bottom.

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We are at war with forces too terrible to comprehend. We cannot afford mercy for any of its victims too weak to take the correct course. Mercy destroys us; it weakens us and saps our resolve. Put aside all such thoughts. They are not worthy of those in the service of country.

Using your logic that all life forms are the same, then it stands to reason that if it is wrong to kill whales, it is equally wrong to kill whale hunters.

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So in your view it is completely legit for the Japanese government to defy a 1963 ban on whaling put in place after whales were nearly hunted to extinction?

And you would even go so far as to have the japanes government kill people to protect their determined desire to violate this ban?

And what for? So a few japanese businessman can turn a profit as they try and hunt these whales to extinction again?

I hope that if Watson actually follows through with his threat that no whale or humans get killed or maimed. But I will take the side of Watson and the Whales any day over a bunch of exploitive money grubbers simply looking to make a few dollars off the industrial level slaughter of dozens of whales.

If the IC won't intervene to enforce the ban, then i can't help but wish Watson the best of luck on his journey.


Andrew

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