Thats only because cities in NA are designed poorly.

Andrew

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Ethanol is a fabulous solution to our energy dilemma because it will provide more fuel for us to drive around and look for food.

-- Unknown

None of this has anything to do with the facts that this is a potential ecological nightmare.

Andrew

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Ethanol is a fabulous solution to our energy dilemma because it will provide more fuel for us to drive around and look for food.

-- Unknown

Civilization is a disaster. I would love nothing more than to see the absolute collapse of modern civilization.

How would me living a natural existence stop you and a billion indians from destroying the planet? No, it just won't do. We need to collectively dismantle the entire system, wholesale, and recreate a more realistic and gratifying existence.


My hypocrisy has absolutely nothing to do with the facts that this dinky little car is an ecological disaster waiting to happen.

The idea that somehow the rest of the world can live like us when we use a massively disproportionate amount of the resources is idiotic. It can't work. And i don't want it to work. Civilization as we live it is one of the most awful and disgusting things imaginable, i hate to see it spread.

Andrew

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Ethanol is a fabulous solution to our energy dilemma because it will provide more fuel for us to drive around and look for food.

-- Unknown

Its got everything to do with it. Before you're going to start whining about what others are doing, it would be best if you corrected the problems you are personally creating.

I'm willing to bet your car alone creates a larger impact on the environment than any 3 of these cars possibly could. Heck, I'll bet your car has a larger environmental impact than the combined activities of any 3 Indian families (of the demographic which would purchase this car) combined! Yet you still have the audacity to demand they do not improve their standard of living until YOU approve of the change.

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In case you were wondering, yes, there really ARE more idiots these days....technology has made natural selection obsolete.

I guess in 1890, Slidell's forefathers didn't foresee the population growing from 364 to over 25,000 in 2000.

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"Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways - Chardonnay in one hand - chocolate in the other - body thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and screaming "WOO HOO, What a Ride!"

You repeat this mantra ad nauseum, but it's coming off as nothing more than a troll at this point. You might want to find a new gig.

Besides, I suspect after a week of life after civilization's collapse you'd be crying for its return.

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When they come a wull staun ma groon
Staun ma groon al nae be afraid
Thoughts awe hame tak awa ma fear
Sweat an bluid hide ma veil awe tears

What do you suggest? If i live in a forest hunting and gathering all alone (at risk of being arrested and imprisoned for not taking part in civilization) will you also move to the forest? How exactly would me doing this stop you from destroying the planet? How would i avoid jail?

The only answer is top down dismantling of modern civilization, there is no other way.

Again, even if you disagree, even if i am a hypocrite, how does that change the fact that this car is an ecological disaster waiting to happen?

I know for a fact that my ecological impact is higher than any individual indian. Absolutely. No argument there. So why would i want them to behave like me? Sounds insane...


Andrew

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Ethanol is a fabulous solution to our energy dilemma because it will provide more fuel for us to drive around and look for food.

-- Unknown

If i was still alive, i might suffer from its loss. I might not. i might even find life actually has meaning.

How does that change the fact that civilization is destroying the world?

Andrew

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Ethanol is a fabulous solution to our energy dilemma because it will provide more fuel for us to drive around and look for food.

-- Unknown

Then perhaps you should remove yourself from civilization, rather than benefit from it.

Nah - thats too difficult for you isnt it? Far easier to bitch and complain.
It wouldnt - but what it WOULD do is keep me from having to listen to your self-righteous bullshit while simultaneously allowing you to feel better about yourself because you'd be helping the planet.
Like I said - when you live your life the way you demand others do, then maybe I MIGHT be inclined to listen to you.
That's only because in your small mind you can only conceive of one way it could happen. Perhaps something like this will motivate other richer nations to develop alternative fuels? But no, you dont THINK of that. You only see others daring to improve their lives.
So remove yourself from it! Seriously - no one is stopping you. We wont mind one damn bit. Hell, remove yourself from the gene pool if you like.

You hate civilization yet you avail yourself of all the benefits of it...wow....what an amazingly hypocritical position.

You do realize of course were your dream to come to pass, you'd have to deal with people being armed everywhere they went dont you? I know you've got a major issue with private weapons ownership. How are you possibly resolving that in your mind?

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In case you were wondering, yes, there really ARE more idiots these days....technology has made natural selection obsolete.

No he wouldn't. He's one of those people who wouldn't survive a week.

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In case you were wondering, yes, there really ARE more idiots these days....technology has made natural selection obsolete.

I guess they were stupid.

Andrew

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Ethanol is a fabulous solution to our energy dilemma because it will provide more fuel for us to drive around and look for food.

-- Unknown

could be. How does that relate to the facts of ecological destruction though?

Andrew

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Ethanol is a fabulous solution to our energy dilemma because it will provide more fuel for us to drive around and look for food.

-- Unknown

No, because unlike you, I am completely comfortable with civilization and fully plan to benefit from it.
It wouldnt, but then again, its pretty arrogant to think man can destroy the planet.
Who gives a shit? I dont even care if you avoid starvation.
Feel free to start with yourself then.
It isnt. You're merely claiming it is.
Then until your life is the equal of theirs, you may want to STFU.

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In case you were wondering, yes, there really ARE more idiots these days....technology has made natural selection obsolete.

How would that stop the destruction?

Just stating the facts.

Exactly.

I don't care if you listen to me.

You'd have to be an idiot to think like that.
How would that stop the destruction.?
I dont see any benefits to civilization. Like i said. i hate it and it does not make me happy. It makes me sad and angry.

A bunch of idiots killing people is better than nine billion poeple destroying the planet. Alternatively we could power-down deliberately and slowly and avoid these problems. Either way it still does not relate to the fact that we are destroying the ability of the planet to accommodate us (and thousands of other species).

We are far more likely to see your scenario if we plan on spreading our disgusting lifestyle all over the world.

Andrew

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Ethanol is a fabulous solution to our energy dilemma because it will provide more fuel for us to drive around and look for food.

-- Unknown

Exaclty. Your ignorance cannot be combated by me moving to the forest.

Its pretty ignorant not to recognize that we are already doing that. We absolutely have the capacity to make the planet inhabitable for ourselves. And even if we dont go that far, there are plenty of ways to make ourselves suffer before we ever reached extinction level impacts.

Continuing on this path we will all see massive famine and disease.
Its pointless. It will only be effective if everybody does it.
It is.

No.

Andrew

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Ethanol is a fabulous solution to our energy dilemma because it will provide more fuel for us to drive around and look for food.

-- Unknown