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Old 02-12-2008
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Media not reporting coldest winter in 100 years

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February 5, 2008


Seems a global warming obsessed media chose not to share such inconvenient truths with their patrons.
Millions remain stranded in China as the country suffered their coldest winter in a century.
Freezing weather has killed scores of people and left travelers stranded.

Will press outlets be able to be so selective in what weather information they share?
If the report was on China experiencing its warmest temperatures in 100 years, global warming certainly would have been blamed. With the advent of solar cycle 24, and the likelihood that the globe will be experiencing cooler temperatures for years to come, it only seems fair that media observances of such should call into question the global warming myth.


Source: China Experiencing Coldest Winter in 100 Years, Will Media Notice? | NewsBusters.org

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Yo, global cooling/global warming/global cooling/global warming crowed, ti’s time to go back to global cooling movements again…
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Re: Media not reporting coldest winter in 100 years

You may not have, I wouldn't know, but media did indeed notice the very day the cold set in.

What did you expect, a movie?
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Re: Media not reporting coldest winter in 100 years

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You may not have, I wouldn't know, but media did indeed notice the very day the cold set in.

What did you expect, a movie?

yea as a matter of fact I do..


actually read an article during lunch last week regards sunspot and sun radio activity, and apparent changes or I should say lack of them, according to scientists, we are in for a cold snap over the next 50-100 years...same as 1650-1740 era...etc...
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Re: Media not reporting coldest winter in 100 years

Regarding such more external causations, here's a good read: The Chilling Stars
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Re: Media not reporting coldest winter in 100 years

I saw something about record lows being set in Minnesota.

Where did I see that? Man, I hate when I can't remember....

OH! Wait....it was on the news.
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Re: Media not reporting coldest winter in 100 years

Part of the global warming problem is that people want sound bytes to explain a very complex issue. I just read an article last week (New Scientist, I think) which talked about how the huge arctic ice melt this last summer changed the salinity of the northern oceans and affected the flow of warm water from the equator northward. This has been predicted to cause colder winters periodically. Over and over again scientists have tried to explain that global warming means that there is more energy in our global weather system which will result in GREATER SWINGS IN TEMPERATURE and an increase in storm intensities.
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Re: Media not reporting coldest winter in 100 years

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Part of the global warming problem is that people want sound bytes to explain a very complex issue. I just read an article last week (New Scientist, I think) which talked about how the huge arctic ice melt this last summer changed the salinity of the northern oceans and affected the flow of warm water from the equator northward. This has been predicted to cause colder winters periodically. Over and over again scientists have tried to explain that global warming means that there is more energy in our global weather system which will result in GREATER SWINGS IN TEMPERATURE and an increase in storm intensities.
No, no, no! They called it Global Warming, so every time it drops below room temprature, it obviously kills all scientific reasoning. You just keep your science to yourself, pal!
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Re: Media not reporting coldest winter in 100 years

Yea, I remember it being widely reported that places, notably Britain, will actually experience a drop in temperature due to global warming.
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Re: Media not reporting coldest winter in 100 years

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February 5, 2008


Seems a global warming obsessed media chose not to share such inconvenient truths with their patrons.
Millions remain stranded in China as the country suffered their coldest winter in a century.
Freezing weather has killed scores of people and left travelers stranded.

Will press outlets be able to be so selective in what weather information they share?
If the report was on China experiencing its warmest temperatures in 100 years, global warming certainly would have been blamed. With the advent of solar cycle 24, and the likelihood that the globe will be experiencing cooler temperatures for years to come, it only seems fair that media observances of such should call into question the global warming myth.


Source: China Experiencing Coldest Winter in 100 Years, Will Media Notice? | NewsBusters.org

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Yo, global cooling/global warming/global cooling/global warming crowed, ti’s time to go back to global cooling movements again…
Apparently this is an American media phenomena. Surprise, surprise.

The Chinese winter has been headlining the news on tv where I live.
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Re: Media not reporting coldest winter in 100 years

There have been many instances of people trying to explain the difference between weather and climate to multiple GW naysayers on this board, mostly to no avail.
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Re: Media not reporting coldest winter in 100 years

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By Noel Sheppard
February 5, 2008


Seems a global warming obsessed media chose not to share such inconvenient truths with their patrons.
Millions remain stranded in China as the country suffered their coldest winter in a century.
Freezing weather has killed scores of people and left travelers stranded.

Will press outlets be able to be so selective in what weather information they share?
If the report was on China experiencing its warmest temperatures in 100 years, global warming certainly would have been blamed. With the advent of solar cycle 24, and the likelihood that the globe will be experiencing cooler temperatures for years to come, it only seems fair that media observances of such should call into question the global warming myth.


Source: China Experiencing Coldest Winter in 100 Years, Will Media Notice? | NewsBusters.org

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Yo, global cooling/global warming/global cooling/global warming crowed, ti’s time to go back to global cooling movements again…

The retard who wrote the article linked in the OP has no scientific credentials.
He proves nothing other than citing sources that show that China is indeed having a cold spell. His argument that the MSM is not reporting it is bullshit though. Just a week ago or so, all news outlets ran stories that showed travel backlogs (airports) etc. had become extreme in China due to the cold weather and ice.

In arguing about global climate change, it's fallacious to pick out a particular region at a particular point in time as evidence of a trend.

If that were the case, global warming proponenets could come back to this thread in July and make the exact opposite case based on monthly record heat somewhere in the world.

Overall, although it's kind of cold here in the U.S. this week and in China, the world's mean annual temperature trends are still on an upswing.

NOAA News Online (Story 2741)
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Re: Media not reporting coldest winter in 100 years

We have had multiple record highs in my area. When I was a child we made allowances for two weeks of snow days every year and usually needed them. This year we have had nothing but rain and some flooding. What is important is the average for the globe. Regional weather will always vary from place to place. Your article seems to focus on one country. For every region that is having abnormally low temperatures others are having abnormally high temperatures.

By the way the reason it probably isn't in the news here is that U.S. news outlets tend to not focus on international news very much in general. If you turn over to News Hour on PBS you will see more report on it. Granted much of the news is taken up for the election which would be the case with any news event.
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Re: Media not reporting coldest winter in 100 years

Because of the media's inability to report the weather, I can't notice that it's fuckin' cold as Cocytus outside.
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Re: Media not reporting coldest winter in 100 years

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The retard who wrote the article linked in the OP has no scientific credentials.
He proves nothing other than citing sources that show that China is indeed having a cold spell. His argument that the MSM is not reporting it is bullshit though. Just a week ago or so, all news outlets ran stories that showed travel backlogs (airports) etc. had become extreme in China due to the cold weather and ice.

In arguing about global climate change, it's fallacious to pick out a particular region at a particular point in time as evidence of a trend.

If that were the case, global warming proponenets could come back to this thread in July and make the exact opposite case based on monthly record heat somewhere in the world.

Overall, although it's kind of cold here in the U.S. this week and in China, the world's mean annual temperature trends are still on an upswing.
I don't understand how it can get so cold now given that we have loaded the atmosphere with CO2. I thought CO2 was a strong GH gas and the most important GH gas?
Based on the rhetoric of environmentalists, these cold spells shouldn't be happening.

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I don't understand how it can get so cold now given that we have loaded the atmosphere with CO2. I thought CO2 was a strong GH gas and the most important GH gas?
Based on the rhetoric of environmentalists, these cold spells shouldn't be happening.

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Maybe you should read about global warming and climate change.
About 10 minutes into it, you'd realize that this winter weather is exactly the kind of thing that global warming was predicted to bring about.
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