Visit the U.S. Politics Online Discussion Forum Archives!
![]() |
|
|||||||
| Environmental Issues Environment, Global Warming, Pollution, Natural Resources, Alternative Energy |
![]() |
|
|
LinkBack | Thread Tools | Display Modes |
|
|||
|
Sound environmental science, hidden bias, or non-issue?
Does anybody have a problem with a particular quote from the following excerpts?
Quote:
Am I over-reacting to a non-issue or is assuming something in the scientific world considered sound science? Kramer
__________________
“We should never be more vigilant than at the moment a new dogma is being installed. … The left has been swept along, entranced by the allure of weather as revolutionary agent, naïvely conceiving of global warming as a crisis that will force radical social changes on capitalism.” TheNation, June 7, 2007 |
|
|||
|
Re: Sound environmental science, hidden bias, or non-issue?
There is nothing wrong with making an assumption when discussing a scientific question. However, that assumption's validity better be addressed in the conclusion. It doesn't appear that this assumption ever was until now.
|
|
|||
|
Re: Sound environmental science, hidden bias, or non-issue?
Quote:
We assume the world is round until it turns out that it's not. We assume a stone will fall down when dropped until it turns out that it doesn't. We assume that planes can fly until it turns out that they can't. No problem at all. |
|
|||
|
Re: Sound environmental science, hidden bias, or non-issue?
Quote:
Kramer
__________________
“We should never be more vigilant than at the moment a new dogma is being installed. … The left has been swept along, entranced by the allure of weather as revolutionary agent, naïvely conceiving of global warming as a crisis that will force radical social changes on capitalism.” TheNation, June 7, 2007 |
|
|||
|
Re: Sound environmental science, hidden bias, or non-issue?
A couple of related links:
Larsen B Ice Shelf Collapses in Antarctica (March 2002) Quote:
Quote:
A search for "hidden bias" in this case will probably be fruitless.
__________________
"Those of us who have looked to the self-interest of lending institutions to protect shareholders' equity, myself especially, are in a state of shock and disbelief." - Alan Greenspan |
|
|||
|
Re: Sound environmental science, hidden bias, or non-issue?
The word "assumption" can be ambiguous. One can make an assumption with no basis, or one could make an assumption based on the best information that is currently available. All scientific theory is assumption of a sort, hopefully based on what science knows and open to revision when new information is available. The way the ice shelf behaved gave us new information.
__________________
The apocalypse is coming... we're gonna need more ammo. |
|
|||
|
Re: Sound environmental science, hidden bias, or non-issue?
Quote:
Last edited by Si modo; 03-02-2008 at 09:52 PM. |
|
|||
|
Re: Sound environmental science, hidden bias, or non-issue?
Quote:
All of this is part and parcel of the debate about global warming. People are demanding absolute PROOF with no questions or caveats before they are willing to do anything to address the issue. This is silly, we should do what we can to alleviate the problem right now because the ecosystems may be irrevocably damaged before we have that proof. There are many things that could be done to increase the efficiency of our power usage without destroying the economy, but it will mean that some people in places of power are going to lose some of that power and therein lies the resistance to ANY kind of rational response. Exxon comes to mind.
__________________
The apocalypse is coming... we're gonna need more ammo. |
![]() |
| Bookmarks |
| Thread Tools | |
| Display Modes | |
|
|