People enjoy TV?

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You mean you're not a bootleg kingpin just because you live in Chicago?!

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I thought DrGoodTrips was the sausage king of Chicago.

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Nope, that was Abe Froman if I recall correctly.

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You really are an amazing woman!

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You know, the one thing that annoys me is that we depend on the world, and yet for all intents and purposes the majority of the population of us humans readily pollute, and squander resources we need to live healthily and well. Of course, its because at a core level we've been coded to be selfish human beings. For survival, which is very ironic.

Take the Great Pacific Garbage Patch for example, a perfect example of a world wide caused problem. Bah. Plastic.

Nothing of the sort.

I'm sure you are. I wasn't implying anything to the contrary. I was only joking when I asked Andrew if he was blowing things up.

I simply saw similarities in Andrew's views regarding technology and modernization and Kazynski's manifesto as it relates to the same. I though he might be interested in Kazynski's writing because of their shared concerns/opinions so I suggested the reading.

I'm perfectly capable of opposing abortion without blowing up abortion clinics and I'm quite sure that y'all are capable of opposing rampant modernization without blowing up airlines.

No accusations here. Just throwing in two cents where applicable.

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...Old Europe, a once-dominant region now reduced to sucking at the geopolitical teat of America... they spent the better part of the last millennium conquering the world and taking the good stuff home with them... And what do they get for their troubles? Ungrateful colonies demanding their independence. And after you taught them how to play cricket!...

-Jon Stewart

But in the end, unless the 'invention' or 'discovery' can be applied to the economy successfully it whithers and dies. The electric car is an example of this. For all intents and purposes the electric car is just as good of a tool as the internal combustion engine for 90 percent of transportation needs, but it was never successful. There was more money to be made in oil burning cars. More jobs to be created and so on.

Yes the military and nasa are constantly looking at developing new technologies without a profit motive, but note that only a small fraction of these technologies ever make it to market, based solely on said technologies ability to turn a profit, create jobs, and help the economy grow.


But in a sense you are really just romanticizing the present and the future.

The truth is likely somewhere in the middle, as it always is. We are not going to voluntarily go back to the sustainable tribal life with little or no negative impact on the earth, nor are we going to transition away from oil smoothly 'without missing a beat'. We are going to continue using technology to try and make an increasingly bad situation better in an effort to control the world around us for our own narrow purposes. Like all technological and agricultural civilizations before us, we will deplete the resource base we have access to in an accelerating trend. Institutions will collapse quite rapidly as the climate shifts and wars are fought over access to whatever resources are still available. We will have a modern dark age of sorts, and we will come out the other end of it living on this planet is some sustainable fashion, with a smaller population, and of course different technologies. We will survive though, as we always do, and we will be better for it.


Andrew

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