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Re: Carbon Belch Day is June 12th

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We all have to forgive Alex a bit anyway, he gets confused someitimes.

I mean wasting water on Carbon Belch Day? WTF.

I suppose the whole water shortage thing is another scare as well. Let me tell my rancher buddies whose wells are drying up that liberals are just scaring their pumps into not working. They're gonna feel a whole lot better now.
Water scarcity also depends on location. Out west they have a severe problem with a growing population and this year with dry conditions in California. Last year they had a major problem in the south with a dry summer and we even had the same conditions here in Kentucky but since we have plenty of water sources in our area it never really translates into a problem.
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Well, thats about it, I am just trying to do my part! I hope you'll all participate!!
I'm hoping to grill out (mmm... beeeeff...) and mow the lawn, and may leave the TV and lights on, but I'm unfortuantely too lazy to un-install my CFLs and my break pads are too close to replacement to drive too stupidly. Can I buy appropriate Carbon Belch Credits to have you fly an extra half hour for me? The two long showers Do sound good, too - I'll even take three if your wife's available!

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While these people are at it, they should organize a day where women who are ovulating have unprotected sex and then take the morning after pill. It's perfectly legal and will annoy people with a silly point of view.
I agree wholeheartedly, and will gladly help out in this effort as well! (For purely altruistic reasons, of course...)

This environmental activism is sounding more fun all the time!
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While these people are at it, they should organize a day where women who are ovulating have unprotected sex and then take the morning after pill. It's perfectly legal and will annoy people with a silly point of view.
Sounds good to me!
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We all have to forgive Alex a bit anyway, he gets confused someitimes.

I mean wasting water on Carbon Belch Day? WTF.

I suppose the whole water shortage thing is another scare as well. Let me tell my rancher buddies whose wells are drying up that liberals are just scaring their pumps into not working. They're gonna feel a whole lot better now.
I just like wasting water - I do that everyday, regardless of Carbon Belch day. Since the planet is 70% water, I don't think we'll be running out anytime soon. Now if I could just find a way to drink salt water..........
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I'm hoping to grill out (mmm... beeeeff...) and mow the lawn, and may leave the TV and lights on, but I'm unfortuantely too lazy to un-install my CFLs and my break pads are too close to replacement to drive too stupidly. Can I buy appropriate Carbon Belch Credits to have you fly an extra half hour for me? The two long showers Do sound good, too - I'll even take three if your wife's available!

I agree wholeheartedly, and will gladly help out in this effort as well! (For purely altruistic reasons, of course...)

This environmental activism is sounding more fun all the time!
That's the spirit!! I will fly an extra hour just for you (that will burn an additional 7 gallons of fuel!). If we work really really hard a this we can create an absolutely HUMONGOUS Carbon Belch!!!
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i really think all of you people should waste more of your time on this forum.
that way when you all wake up and realize you need a 12 step program for forum addiction, you can find another way to burn lights, and flush toleits, to run a meeting to help you all. think of all the extra gas you can use to drive to the meetings in your
suv's as well.
alex maybe you can fly your fantasy plane over the meeting with a banner that
displays your politcal beliefs.
dr good trips, you are a trip, when was the last time you were even with a woman. let me guess, on your computer?
actually there is no worry about any of you people using gas, because i do not think you ever leave your houses. its scary i know, there are real people out there you can talk too.
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i really think all of you people should waste more of your time on this forum.
that way when you all wake up and realize you need a 12 step program for forum addiction, you can find another way to burn lights, and flush toleits, to run a meeting to help you all. think of all the extra gas you can use to drive to the meetings in your
suv's as well.
alex maybe you can fly your fantasy plane over the meeting with a banner that
displays your politcal beliefs.
dr good trips, you are a trip, when was the last time you were even with a woman. let me guess, on your computer?
actually there is no worry about any of you people using gas, because i do not think you ever leave your houses. its scary i know, there are real people out there you can talk too.
and maybe you can practice commiting hari kari? Or working on the perfection of your own Goatse'd photo? Good luck!
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I just like wasting water - I do that everyday, regardless of Carbon Belch day. Since the planet is 70% water, I don't think we'll be running out anytime soon. Now if I could just find a way to drink salt water..........
Get an R.O. system, or a distiller both will remove salt from the water.
The navy uses one on their ships, and in the middle east there are plants to take the salt out of the water for drinking.
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Re: Carbon Belch Day is June 12th

Just an update - I did almost everything I promised to do for the Carbon Belch! Unfortunately, I was only able to get 1.5 hours of flight time in. But, I made up for it by driving around 200 miles today when I only planned around 100 miles. Whew! it was a very busy day. Just doin' my part!!!
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Re: Carbon Belch Day is June 12th

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I just like wasting water - I do that everyday, regardless of Carbon Belch day. Since the planet is 70% water, I don't think we'll be running out anytime soon. Now if I could just find a way to drink salt water..........
So technology will save us, and we should be as irresponsible and wasteful as possible? Gottcha.
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Get an R.O. system, or a distiller both will remove salt from the water.
The navy uses one on their ships, and in the middle east there are plants to take the salt out of the water for drinking.
Problem is, they're not exactly cheap and in many cases the benefits don't outweigh the costs. Takes lots of energy after all, and even the largest distiller plant in the world can hardly match the Colorado river. I have to say I'm really tired of everyone thinking that being an environmentalist means being some eco-wacko. I mean I would think people would want not to pay higher utility bills, would want not to get cancer, would want the benefits of living healthier lives.

Does that mean I agree with global warming? Not necessarily, because frankly the title stinks for one thing. Climate change is much better, as after all climate is a very dynamic thing across the board. Then there is the fact that the whole issue of climate change has been muddied by both sides so much that it's hard to know what to believe. Even though it should of been left to science which would of given us a definitive, yes, no, or simply not enough data. That's the thing about science after all, its very clear cut.

Oh well, I'm sure its all a lie, and I've simply been misinformed about the environmental impact of man.
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Problem is, they're not exactly cheap and in many cases the benefits don't outweigh the costs. Takes lots of energy after all, and even the largest distiller plant in the world can hardly match the Colorado river. I have to say I'm really tired of everyone thinking that being an environmentalist means being some eco-wacko. I mean I would think people would want not to pay higher utility bills, would want not to get cancer, would want the benefits of living healthier lives.

Does that mean I agree with global warming? Not necessarily, because frankly the title stinks for one thing. Climate change is much better, as after all climate is a very dynamic thing across the board. Then there is the fact that the whole issue of climate change has been muddied by both sides so much that it's hard to know what to believe. Even though it should of been left to science which would of given us a definitive, yes, no, or simply not enough data. That's the thing about science after all, its very clear cut.

Oh well, I'm sure its all a lie, and I've simply been misinformed about the environmental impact of man.
I think that many things environmentalists say is bullshit. Climate change happens to not be one of them. Some environmentalists are against using nuclear energy because it is a hazard as well but I think the threat of climate change is much more serious than the unlikely event of a meltdown. Being against doing anything about it is sacrificing long term economic growth and prosperity of human civilization in exchange for better short term growth and wealth. Even if I thought climate change was unlikely to be caused by humans (which I don't) it does make sense to do something considering the possible consequences even if thought unlikely. Most people own house insurance for example even though it will mostly likely not be needed. They are willing to pay a small amount of money just in case. It only seems practical to do the same on a larger scale as well.
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I think that many things environmentalists say is bullshit.
Fair enough, I agree. The types of issues I"m talking about are ones which threaten health, resources, and will only prove to be more costly in the long run. You know pollution, overfishing, and using resources irresponsibly. Or are those examples of issues you think are bullshit? I think the biggest problem with the majority of environmentalist, is that they're clearly unreasonable in their stance. That being said we are a product of our environment and our actions do have consequences.

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Climate change happens to not be one of them.
For the most part I agree, but I'm no climate scientist.

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Some environmentalists are against using nuclear energy because it is a hazard as well but I think the threat of climate change is much more serious than the unlikely event of a meltdown.
That's one issue I disagree with completely, obviously there is risk and concerns, especially when your building with costs in mind instead of quality and then there is a matter of the waste. If its done correctly though, it probably benefits the environment as far as air quality.

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Even if I thought climate change was unlikely to be caused by humans (which I don't) it does make sense to do something considering the possible consequences even if thought unlikely. Most people own house insurance for example even though it will mostly likely not be needed. They are willing to pay a small amount of money just in case. It only seems practical to do the same on a larger scale as well.
Agreed.

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So technology will save us, and we should be as irresponsible and wasteful as possible? Gottcha.
not really, I was justing being a smart Alex... Seriously, the whole purpose of "Carbon Belch Day" was to point out the absurdity of the Climate Alarmist agenda.
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Of course there IS the possibility that it isn't all bullshit and people only get that impression from the radical environmentalists. A majority of scientists still agree but the PETA-like behavior of the radicals can sour the public perceptions of the problem.
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